Martin's dad to speak to congress

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aviator41

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Ridiculous. Another merit-less voice speaking to a merit-less group about, no doubt, topics in which he has a merit-less opinion.

Where's the Congressional Caucus on white Men and Boys? Hispanic Men and Boys?

funny how racism has turned into such a double-standard.

United Negro College fund - how about a United white-guy college fund?
 

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Maybe he'll explain to congress that instead of his son taking the path of having good role models to follow, he chose role models who endorsed violence and a lifestyle of crime?

I doubt it.
 

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Ridiculous. Another merit-less voice speaking to a merit-less group about, no doubt, topics in which he has a merit-less opinion.

Where's the Congressional Caucus on white Men and Boys? Hispanic Men and Boys?

funny how racism has turned into such a double-standard.

United Negro College fund - how about a United white-guy college fund?

If you go by the US Constitution then that would make OUR country just shy of 225 years old. In that time, both whites and blacks have lived here and helped build this country.
However:
> slavery only ended 150 years ago...75 years after "All men are created equal"
> around 145 years ago the 14th & 15th amendments allowed for citizenship to those born on this soil and voting rights to all citizens...Jim Crow laws soon followed to prevent many blacks from voting
> 115 years ago "separate but equal" policies enacted to segregate races...mind you this is after they've already been granted citizenship, voting rights, and deemed "created equal"
> 65 years ago the US armed forces were integrated...many blacks wished to fight/die for this country but were forbidden to do so or kept segregated/treated differently than other troops
> 60 years ago public schools were integrated making separate schools for blacks and whites unconstitutional...my parents would have been about 10 years old at the time
> 50 years ago the voting rights act did away with the practices that prevented many blacks from exercising the right afforded to them in the 15th amendment...almost 100 years later

As for White-Guy scholarships...well there are those specifically for students of Irish and German descent - pretty sure that's a white scholarship. Or you could apply to the United Negro College Fund as their PRIVATELY funded scholarships are open to all ethnic groups (i.e. they don't discriminate).

What are you guys' thoughts on this?
I think maybe this might be a move towards seeing that this situation doesn't happen again. All of the complaints about TM being a thug, his father failing him, a product of gangsta culture, all about color - perhaps instead of condemning the group for forming, maybe step back and see it as a progressive step towards fixing the problems that this trial has clearly brought to light.
If we're going to complain about how things are wrong, should we really complain when attempts are made to change them?
I'm not saying anything miraculous is going to come of this, but Martin did not mention GZ's name when he spoke in the piece I saw. He did say that something should be done about profiling...it exists and in some cases it is quite severe.
If you know of a better solution to the problem, I'm more than willing to hear what you have to say.
 

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what problems did that trial bring to light? it was open and shut

How about the fact that as a country we are still way to overly controlled by racial stereotypes, racial discrimination, racial profiling...or just racism in general.
The trial should have been about self defense, but it wasn't. And that's not because of the media, left-wing, right-wing, or whatever...it's because the issues are real and they still exist very strongly in our society.
If you've never been on the receiving end of it, then it's a bit difficult to explain. Cases that blow up like this and ignite a division in this country take on a life all their own and the original issue can get buried or lost (i.e. SD, SYG, 2A).

What's wrong with profiling?
Not a thing as long as you're styling while you do it.
 

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You live in a different reality. Both jurors that spoke publicly claimed race was not involved nor did it ever come up in deliberations. It was an open and shut self defense case.
 

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How about the fact that as a country we are still way to overly controlled by racial stereotypes, racial discrimination, racial profiling...or just racism in general.
The trial should have been about self defense, but it wasn't. And that's not because of the media, left-wing, right-wing, or whatever...it's because the issues are real and they still exist very strongly in our society.
If you've never been on the receiving end of it, then it's a bit difficult to explain. Cases that blow up like this and ignite a division in this country take on a life all their own and the original issue can get buried or lost (i.e. SD, SYG, 2A).


Not a thing as long as you're styling while you do it.

I gotta ask, who exactly is out there doing these things? (the bolded part)
 
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