Teaching a Kid to Drive; How Much Trouble if You're Caught?

[71buickfreak]

Not sure, but you could get into some trouble. I have been doing the same with my boy, 13 as of yesterday. Started out in parking lots, I let him drive us home the other day about 2 miles of country road.

I am going to stick to parking lots until he is older. My son is 5' 8", 220, so he could easily pass for 15, that makes a difference in getting out of trouble.

As a side note, I have been told to start the kids out driving backwards in circles. Teaches them finesse. I am going to try that, it makes sense. If can drive backwards, you can handle forward motion a lot better.

 

[dennishoddy]

Not sure, but you could get into some trouble. I have been doing the same with my boy, 13 as of yesterday. Started out in parking lots, I let him drive us home the other day about 2 miles of country road.

I am going to stick to parking lots until he is older. My son is 5' 8", 220, so he could easily pass for 15, that makes a difference in getting out of trouble.

As a side note, I have been told to start the kids out driving backwards in circles. Teaches them finesse. I am going to try that, it makes sense. If can drive backwards, you can handle forward motion a lot better.

Have no opinion about the driving backwards, but I did take my kids to the High School parking lots when it was total ice on the roads, and let them do some controlled skids. real world training with no disaster looming.

I hope it helped.

 

[Lurker66]

Thought you had to be a licensed driver to be a permissive driver?? Otherwise, I could tell my six year old to drive to town and not worry about it, he's covered?

Thats kinda why I think the suspension thing is funny. At 13 you do what your parents tell ya. If a judge plays hardazz and suspends a license you aint eligible for now, what difference would it make to suspend it until 18? Either way its the parents fault.

Another dumb policy I reckon.

 

[Kyle78]

Teach him how to drive on private property. If your caught, he won't beable to get a license till 18. You'll get a large ticket for unlicensed driver, possible car impounded, and your insurance will be notified.
Insurance will go up or you'll be dropped.

A family friend was letting his 15 yoa drive to work. She was stopped for speeding. They made him drive over from work to retrieve her. He got about $800+ in tickets, kid lost her permit, and can't get a DL till 18 now. and his insurance dropped him, he's paying thru the nose now for vehicle insurance.

 

[Kyle78]

Driving without a license, if the judge wants to be a harda$$, he will issue the person a license and then suspend it. Since it's a minor, it would be suspended until he's 18 typically.

It's called a Setup number, not a actual DL. It's just a way to document the violation in NCIC.

 

[TerryMiller]

When I was a kid, you could get a license to drive from the field to the elevator in a 2 ton wheat truck at 12 years old.

I had to sit on a Sears Catalog to see out the windshield. I could only drive from the field to the elevator.

That was the rules.

Its been changed now.

I don't know what the current regs are.

Yeppers. I did that as well and it was 4 to 12 miles from Grandpa's fields to the elevator, which just happened to be his own grain bins. Plus, I started the grain elevator motor myself and emptied the truck. However, in the county where I grew up and at the time I grew up, I never got a "permit" or license. I never heard of a young driver being "punished" by the law back then.

 

[dennishoddy]

Teach him how to drive on private property. If your caught, he won't beable to get a license till 18. You'll get a large ticket for unlicensed driver, possible car impounded, and your insurance will be notified.
Insurance will go up or you'll be dropped.

A family friend was letting his 15 yoa drive to work. She was stopped for speeding. They made him drive over from work to retrieve her. He got about $800+ in tickets, kid lost her permit, and can't get a DL till 18 now. and his insurance dropped him, he's paying thru the nose now for vehicle insurance.

There are exemptions.

The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets standards for child labor in agriculture. These standards differ from those for non-farm jobs. The FLSA covers employees whose work involves production of agricultural goods which will leave the state directly or indirectly and become a part of interstate commerce.

 

[Kyle78]

There are exemptions.

The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets standards for child labor in agriculture. These standards differ from those for non-farm jobs. The FLSA covers employees whose work involves production of agricultural goods which will leave the state directly or indirectly and become a part of interstate commerce.

I think the farmers permit was abolished. I'm not seeing any thing for it on DPS website, and hardship permits are issued per case.

http://teendriving.aaa.com/OK/supervised-driving/licensing-and-state-laws

 

[dennishoddy]

I think the farmers permit was abolished. I'm not seeing any thing for it on DPS website, and hardship permits are issued per case.

http://teendriving.aaa.com/OK/supervised-driving/licensing-and-state-laws

I'm on my phone. I'm limited in what I can see. Don't know if this might help?

Youth Farming in Oklahoma
Can Oklahoma youth engage in youth farming?
The state child labor laws do not apply to children working either on farms or for parents or any entity in which a parent owns an equity interest. Please contact the United States Department of Labor at 1-866-487-9243 or www.dol.gov for more information.
Do federal child labor laws apply to youth engaged in farm jobs?
The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets standards for child labor in agriculture. These standards differ from those for non-farm jobs. The FLSA covers employees whose work involves production of agricultural goods which will leave the state directly or indirectly and become a part of interstate commerce. Please contact the United States Department of Labor (USDOL) at 1-866-487-9243 or www.dol.gov for more information.
What minimum age standards does the USDOL set for youth agricultural employment?
Age of Child
USDOL Standards
16 and above
May work in any farm job at any time
14 and 15
May work outside school hours in jobs not declared hazardous by the Secretary of Labor
12 and 13
May work outside of school hours in non-hazardous jobs on farms that also employ their parent(s) or with written parental consent
under 12
May work outside of school hours in non-hazardous jobs with parental consent, but only on farms where none of the employees are subject to the minimum wage requirements of the FLSA
10 and 11
May hand harvest short-season crops outside school hours for no more than 8 weeks between June 1 and October 15 if their employers have obtained special waivers from the Secretary of Labor
other
Youths of any age may work at any time in any job on a farm owned or operated by their parents
What happens if the state child labor standards differ from federal standards?
Many states have laws setting standards for child labor in agriculture. When both state and federal child labor laws apply, the law setting the most stringent standard must be observed.
Who enforces the federal child labor laws?
The United States Department of Labor Department enforces the federal child labor laws. Employers may be fined up to $10,000 for each child labor violation. Therefore, COMPLY

 

[Kyle78]

That doesn't have any thing to do with allowing underage kids to drive farm vehicles on county roads. That's child welfare laws concerning employment.