‘Stand your ground’ law protects shooter in deadly fight over parking space: sheriff

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Dave70968

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Something that's almost certainly irrelevant: if it wasn't known to the shooter at the time of the incident, it couldn't possibly have influenced his state of mind as to whether or not the decedent presented a threat worth shooting. His violent actions, sure--and it may have been a legally justifiable shoot based on that. I won't argue that.

But there's a man dead because he parked in a handicapped spot, and rather than calling law enforcement, Our Hero decided to challenge the "perp" immediately, all by his lonesome.

A cell phone and a camera would've been much better tools here.
 

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Dave, the shooter did not walk up to the car and shoot somebody for illegally parking in a handicap spot, so the dead man isn't dead because he parked there......he is dead because he assaulted the shooter, period! The shooter did not draw his weapon until after he was assaulted.

If you watch the whole video, you will see that the shooter never talked to the dead guy before he was attacked......so there is no way he shot because the guy because of where he parked.

Here is the whole video.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sqPbL_1532105651
 

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Dave, the shooter did not walk up to the car and shoot somebody for illegally parking in a handicap spot, so the dead man isn't dead because he parked there......he is dead because he assaulted the shooter, period! The shooter did not draw his weapon until after he was assaulted.

If you watch the whole video, you will see that the shooter never talked to the dead guy before he was attacked......so there is no way he shot because the guy because of where he parked.

Here is the whole video.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sqPbL_1532105651
Read the story for the context:
Her boyfriend, 28-year-old Markeis McGlockton, and their 5-year-old son Markeis McGlockton Jr., exited Jacob's vehicle and entered the convenience store, detectives said. As Jacobs waited outside the parking lot, detectives said the shooter, 47-year-old Michael Drejka, approached her.

Both got into an argument over the handicapped parking space, detectives said. A witness notified the store clerk of the argument, and McGlockton exited the store and approached Drejka. Detectives said they were told by witnesses that McGlockton pushed Drejka, causing him to fall to the ground.​

So...he challenged the "perp" (the girlfriend). Boyfriend comes out, takes umbrage, possibly (we have no way of knowing) exchanges a few brief words, and shoves Our Hero, who fires upon boyfriend.

I'll grant that I misspoke as to who parked illegally, but that doesn't change the fact that a man is dead because Our Hero had to get involved in what would have been, at most, a parking ticket.

I don't know about you, but when I strap on my sidearm, it's not so that I can be a Junior Ranger Meter Maid. If Our Hero had reached for the holster containing his phone instead of challenging the driver (girlfriend), he probably never would have had to reach for the holster containing his gun. That's a fact.
 

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So put the whole handicap illegal parked car and argument aside this guy comes up to the hero and shoved him down then the hero shoots the guy then is it justified?
That's another question entirely. I can see it if there's disparity of force (particularly if the shovee-shooter was injured or frail, whether known or not to the aggressor), and I don't presume to know Florida law, but under Oklahoma law, I don't see a felony battery or grave threat here. But I didn't want to opine there because the legal issue will turn on the text of the statute and the local jurisprudence interpreting same, and I don't do Florida.
 

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Who parked where doesn't make a damn really. Don't put your hands on somebody unless you're willing to die. The guy got shot cuz he got physical. Why can't someone call someone out for parking in the wrong spot?? Several have mentioned the older fella should've let it slide. Why didn't the dead guy just let it slide?
 

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This might wind up being a legal shoot according to FL law, but it's not a justified shoot IMO and certainly not a "good" shoot. I'd hate to think I wound up killing someone over something as trivial as a damned parking spot. :(

I don't think the shooting was over the parking spot. I think the shooting was a result of the assault.

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Who parked where doesn't make a damn really. Don't put your hands on somebody unless you're willing to die. The guy got shot cuz he got physical. Why can't someone call someone out for parking in the wrong spot?? Several have mentioned the older fella should've let it slide. Why didn't the dead guy just let it slide?
Because we generally require our "good guys" to respond proportionately. Killing somebody because of a shove isn't proportionate (in most cases).
 

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