lowers are registered in a sense the manufacture registers them as being made with the government and the store selling the gun has a record of who it's sold to. Either way there's a paper trail. You can call it what you want.
lowers are registered in a sense the manufacture registers them as being made with the government and the store selling the gun has a record of who it's sold to. Either way there's a paper trail. You can call it what you want.
are you hung up on the fact you can make a gun from scratch and sell it as long as your aren't in the business of making and selling a firearm? If you make a firearm, show it to your buddy and he's interested in it and offers you money you can sell it. However, if he asks you to make another or another buddy asks you to make one for him that would be producing a firearm for profit. That's the illegal part. Nothing illegal about selling a gun you made for yourself as long as the gun is legal to own.
I buy a lower from a dealer and fill out a 4473. I sell it to Jack Handy in a private FTF deal. He sells it to Phil McCracken in the OSA classifieds. They meet in the bass pro parking lot for the deal. Then Phil sells it to The Horny Toad Rod and Gun Shop, a type 01 FFL. The Horny Toad sells it to Mary Jane as a bonafide gift to her husband for their 17th wedding anniversary filling out the required 4473.
Is the ATF able to find out that Mary Jane's husband has a stripped lower? Not likely. Was it a straw purchase?
Is the ATF able to find out that Mary Jane's husband has a stripped lower? Not likely. Was it a straw purchase?
Then let's call it a television, because Samsung and Wal Mart can do the same thing with a TV.
I guess you're missing the point. After the first person that bought the gun from the gun store sells it, then no it can't be traced. But if the government wanted to, they can find out who bought a gun from what store if they're the first purchaser. How do you think they find out where the guns were purchased for the Colorado shooter? Why in some states can you only buy 1 gun every 30 days? How do they know if the guns aren't registered at the store?
TVs and guns? The only similarity is they're both consumer products.
I clearly stated in my post how the ATF traces guns. Even Reddog doesn't believe that guns are being registered via the 4473. As far as some states, I don't know, maybe it's the buyer that is flagged, not the guns.
/argument.
Where do you guys bound books go after you quit or go out of buisness?
Looks like you opened my eyes. I was a few years out of date. Looks like in 2005 it changed. No more manufacturer tax on small fish under 50 guns a year
How are they registered when the FFL does not convey serial# or model over the phone during the backround check?
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