Anyone seen this 38spl ammo before

[Deleted member 44750]

I have a big boy x you could run it though, and a couple of 686’s

i think of it more as a “I was held back because l couldn’t make it as a 357 mag,”.

I've got a Blackhawk and an sp101, pretty sure they'd both handle it

 

[HoLeChit]

I have a box of Winchester ranger 38spl +p+ with similar markings. I bet it’s just +p+ stuff. Which I never really understood. You typically can’t put that stuff through a 38spl revolver, and if you’re using a 357 mag revolver to shoot ammo that gets you 357mag performance, you might as well shoot 357mag.

 

[rickm]

I have a box of Winchester ranger 38spl +p+ with similar markings. I bet it’s just +p+ stuff. Which I never really understood. You typically can’t put that stuff through a 38spl revolver, and if you’re using a 357 mag revolver to shoot ammo that gets you 357mag performance, you might as well shoot 357mag.

I will have to agree to a point sometimes 38 is easier to come by compared to the 357 so sometimes you have to take what you can get.

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

When I started with the sheriff's department in CO in the late 80s this was the issue ammo along with Federal Nyclads in .357Mag. I still have this box of the Win +P+ stuff and some of the Nyclad.

I started carrying a 4" GP-100 and I can tell you the Win +P+ is not nearly as stout as .357 Mag ammo. There is a distinct difference when shooting it.

 

[swampratt]

I think the old 38 special+P CUP rating was 22,500. 21,900 Now i believe and regular 38 special is 18,000 CUP.
357 Magnum is 45,000 CUP for comparison.

You can read about that posted ammo in this article.
And many more tidbits of information on the 38.

All About The .38 Special +P and .38 Special +P+ – RevolverGuy.Com

revolverguy.com

 

[rustyaa55]

I have a box of Winchester ranger 38spl +p+ with similar markings. I bet it’s just +p+ stuff. Which I never really understood. You typically can’t put that stuff through a 38spl revolver, and if you’re using a 357 mag revolver to shoot ammo that gets you 357mag performance, you might as well shoot 357mag.

There are MANY 38 spcl revolvers rated for +p+. When i bought the reintroduction S&W Centenial we were shocked to see it was rated for +p+. That is a J frame! *OP - Did you try WINCHESTER Western Customer Service?

 

[Deleted member 44750]

There are MANY 38 spcl revolvers rated for +p+. When i bought the reintroduction S&W Centenial we were shocked to see it was rated for +p+. That is a J frame! *OP - Did you try WINCHESTER Western Customer Service?

No I didn't. Not that important to me, just starting a convo to see if anyone knew about this stuff

 

[WoodsCraft]

I find it interesting that there is really no standard for what +P or +P+ ammo is . Some of it really is hot business and some of it not any hotter than other standard pistol ammunition. I have a pretty good stash of Israeli 9mm which is by all accounts substantially hotter than regualr 9x19 so much I won't shoot it in a handgun , at the time as I recall it was supposedly intended for sub guns .

 

[rustyaa55]

LEO Ammo has been around for years. Is only sold to Police distributors. Dealers can only sell to LE by contract. Sometimes special bullets (remember BLACK TALON?) The LE Ammo has coating on powder to reduce muzzle flash. Manufacturers finally started using that coating on our high end defensive ammo. A friend told me all U.S. Military ammo has had that coating for a long time. He should know. I typically grab any LE ammo i can. It would be easy to defend its' use in court. BTW - Have a mostly full box of original SUPER VEL 357 MAG. Won't shoot that.

 

[swampratt]

More critical in 38's than 5.56 vs .223