Are you willing to kill a man over a microphone? This Norman man apparently was

[henschman]

Am I willing to kill a man over a microphone? No, not with the current legal system we live under. It considers that sort of thing to be murder. Which do I think is worth more -- a thief's life or a piece of my property? Easy -- my continued possession of my property brings a lot more happiness to my life than the continued existence of some piece of filth. Their continued existence actually holds a negative value for me. So if we didn't have the legal constraints we currently do, I would absolutely kill a man for stealing my property, if it was the only (or even the easiest) way available to me to keep him from making off with my stuff. If this were allowed, people who value their lives would simply need to make sure that they don't put their continued life in conflict with the rights of other people.

My personal property was acquired through my labor either for direct trade or through currency to purchase; therefore, I used a piece of my finite life on this earth to acquire the property and the property directly reflects a piece of my life. It's not a philosophy, it's a fact. I'm a free individual and decide the direction my life goes, if I decide to kill someone for taking my property then it is my decision and my decision alone; I alone will deal with the legal ramifications, no one else.

You win! And you are more of a philosopher than you give yourself credit for if you understand all the implications of what you just said!

 

[Boehlertaught]

+1
If he is fleeing, he isn't a threat. You cannot execute people for stealing from you.
This guy saved his microphone, but he may have just mortgaged his familys future to pay a good 2a defense lawyer $100,000 to try and save his bacon.

If Dude #1 wants to shoot... Chase Dude #2's truck until it stops; confront him politely and he'll start a fight. Dude #2 could now defend himself. Hey it's loose but it is a better idea than shooting at the fleeing truck.

 

[HMFIC]

One more thing and then I'm probably done with this thread... I'm still shaking my head at some of the responses.

I've said it before in the Ersland discussion.

You guys obviously can do whatever you want. Everyone is entitled to their opinion too.

BUT...

If you want to avoid some problems, you need to not only train your hands and eyes with your weapon, but you should also consider these type of scenarios and train your mind as well. Give careful and thoughtful consideration to how you would react and cement that attitude in your mind. Training reactions begins with your assessment of a situation. Take the opportunity when you're out and about to imagine situations that might present themselves and determine a plan of action or what you would do. Some of this is just the way you naturally think or behave anyway, but you should at least give some credence to the idea that under duress, you may get caught up in emotions or stress. It's important that you exercise your mind and train your thinking so that you will act accordingly.

 

[Boehlertaught]

HMFIC. I think most folks that respond to a thread like this are not being completely true to themselve about how they would really react...they're just having fun a lot of the time and this is a way to release some fun stresses. Hell, if someone stole my microphone in this scenario I would wad up a $20 and throw it at his truck hoping he could catch it. Why? Because folks need to be paid for using their balls and anyone willing to steal takes a chance of some kind of physical action from the folks they steal from. If there's anyone in this forum that truely believes they would shoot some numbnuts in a situation like that they've got some issues and I don't mean just the legal kind.

 

[SoonerBorn]

HMFIC. I think most folks that respond to a thread like this are not being completely true to themselve about how they would really react...they're just having fun a lot of the time and this is a way to release some fun stresses. Hell, if someone stole my microphone in this scenario I would wad up a $20 and throw it at his truck hoping he could catch it. Why? Because folks need to be paid for using their balls and anyone willing to steal takes a chance of some kind of physical action from the folks they steal from. If there's anyone in this forum that truely believes they would shoot some numbnuts in a situation like that they've got some issues and I don't mean just the legal kind.

I would venture to say that your mentality, as stated above, is exactly the type of thinking a thief is banking on.

 

[HMFIC]

HMFIC. I think most folks that respond to a thread like this are not being completely true to themselve about how they would really react...they're just having fun a lot of the time and this is a way to release some fun stresses. Hell, if someone stole my microphone in this scenario I would wad up a $20 and throw it at his truck hoping he could catch it. Why? Because folks need to be paid for using their balls and anyone willing to steal takes a chance of some kind of physical action from the folks they steal from. If there's anyone in this forum that truely believes they would shoot some numbnuts in a situation like that they've got some issues and I don't mean just the legal kind.

I think you're right... I mean who hasn't considered all of the motion picture fantasies, pushing out the chest and talking big about slaughtering anyone who looks at you sideways.

The reality though (and that's why I posted that last thought) was that if you get too caught up in that type of delusional thinking (like perhaps the now incarcerated Starfleet Commander Ersland did), then you run the risk of living it out in real life.

 

[Old Fart]

Just asking....
Based on some discussion on this board.

What if it was a pet dog that ran off with the microphone. Would we still be so eager to shoot it?

 

[SoonerBorn]

Just asking....
Based on some discussion on this board.

What if it was a pet dog that ran off with the microphone. Would we still be so eager to shoot it?

Hmmm...Property stealing property.....interesting.

 

[HMFIC]

Just asking....
Based on some discussion on this board.

What if it was a pet dog that ran off with the microphone. Would we still be so eager to shoot it?

Only if it was a pit bull driving his motorcycle with car tires on it across my lawn ...

 

[TwoForFlinching]

Just asking....
Based on some discussion on this board.

What if it was a pet dog that ran off with the microphone. Would we still be so eager to shoot it?

I don't understand. Are you putting a dog on the same level as a human? Or a low-ass criminal on the same level as a dog? It seems human>dog>criminal...