I don't necessarily have the "why bother" attitude, I'm just providing the point that there's a bit of irrational perception with all of this.
If my car is locked am I negligent in keeping a firearm in it? To what level of security would satisfy those that would say yes?
Where are some hypothetical good places to secure a gun in a vehicle? Could probably put a secure box in my console, but that would be the first place they go and they'd undoubtedly destroy it. No room under my seat. No room beside my seat. Securing it is easier said than done.
Growing up in rural areas/being on and around farms etc… it’s common for a shotgun, or a 30/30, or revolver, etc… to be kept in trucks. I see where you guys are coming from, but the thieves are indeed the problem, chill with all the victim shaming.
Fair enough. This thread has been fine. Although in other threads when this topic is discussed here, I see a lot of bad attitudes towards people who leave a gun in vehicles. I often keep a gun in my vehicle. I’ve never had a firearm stolen.It’s not victim shaming. We discuss ways to avoid being a victim of crime all the time and learn from the mistakes of others.
yeah the lockpicking lawyer on youtube makes even the most expensive finger print "only" locked gun safe look like childs play. he opens them all in seconds, we're talking things that sell for $200 and up and call themselves "blah blah safest toughest lock blah blah". literally seconds. even police locks.
even better, if it's a case like literally ANY of these, they could just.....take the gun AND the case....
even the fancy police one just unbolts. any number of tools could just take those two bolts off, then you could grab the whole rifle and the lock freely.
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