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JCW355

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when removing the popcorn spray the ceiling,mist it with water.we used a pump up sprayer wet a small area let set for a little bit then scraped it off.it's easier to clean when wet. Besure and use a good respirator don't soak it just lightly dampen makes thing work better.also cover anything you don't want it on.

+1. I've removed asbestos tile and we would spray it with water to keep the dust down. Getting pro's to do it will cost a bunch I bet.
 

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It was a foreclosure, we bought it from a bank. I don't know how that would affect anything.

Still looking into removing it myself, just doing some homework first.

Personally, when I read every other page saying "get a pro get a pro get a pro get a pro get a pro get a pro..." it screams "racket!!!" loud and clear to me. Especially when one range of costs I found (which doesn't seem too out of line with all the ones I saw) was $15-$25 / sf, or in this case, something like $45k, almost half the value of the house, that's BULL SH!T. Period. Especially when there's a better chance of me dying by electrocution rewiring my house, but yet I can find any number of guides on the simple standards for electrical wiring that don't yell "get a pro!".

The last straw, is if it's SOOOO bad... why did they continue to allow existing stock to be installed after it was banned? More BS.

Just my :twocents:


Well, the bank is defeintely required by law to disclose that Info to you, they are the ones who are fiscally responsible for the cleanup, and yes a Professional is the best way to clean it up, just accidentally inhaling small amounts of the asbestos fibers will damage your lungs and respiratory system, and cancer can manifest itself within 6 months of exposure, your risk, your choice.
 

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Is there any way of telling if the popcorn ceiling has asbestos in it?
We were just gonna scrape it off in our house but never had the time to...I`m glad I found this post.

You can look up a lab in your area and take them a sample. If it was built before '86 it probably has it in there.

I would wet it with a pump sprayer and scrape it off. Since there isn't anything in the house and you're getting new appliances and carpet I would definitely do it yourself. Wear some old cloths and a mask and keep it plenty moist to reduce the dust. Make sure you throw out the clothes and clean up when you're done. I know it's bad stuff, but something about the whole deal doesn't smell kosher. Someone is getting rich cleaning this stuff up and arguing in the court room. So much money involved it just smells a little. I can see people that have worked around it day in and day out for years getting sick from it, but if you take a few precautions to protect yourself, I don't think it is going to kill you because you looked at it funny.
 

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good gravy I'm beat.

thanks for all the tips, and for those that I didn't call, I wasn't ignoring you. I had enough knowledgeable opinions by friday morning I went ahead.

I'll get up some project pics in a new thread later. We have, with a lot of help, removed the popcorn from half the house, rmoved nearly all the carpet and pads, removed all the wallpaper, and primed two bedrooms. I'm worn out.

I'll check in again later.
 

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My wife is currently working on removing the asbestos popcorn ceiling in our 1977-built home. Some homes built up until 1984 have it.

Cost us $25 in Tulsa to have a sample professionally tested and proven 4% asbestos.

She is using the spray bottle method, uses an asbestos-rated mask and filters ($30 at Atwoods) and plenty of plastic sheeting to keep it from getting everywhere. She's done TONS of research on it...

In our particular location, there are no codes for removal if it is done by a private individual. Also nothing specific about disposal. She is keeping it wet, double-bagging it and tossing it.

Estimate for removal in our ~2200 sq ft house was around $14-15,000. Not going to happen.

Asbestos does not have to be disclosed in a sale unless you are aware that it is there. Simply having a product like a popcorn ceiling that COULD contain asbestos means either keep not knowing, or get ready to pull it out. Once we tested it, we had no choice, as we do not want to have to disclose that on sale next year. Of course, we planned on removing it anyways, since it looks like ass.

She has currently finished 3 baths and 1 bedroom. About 1/5th of the house, probably. She is getting much better, and the plastic sheeting method is working very well. She does it during the day when I am at work and The Boy is at school, keeping doors and windows closed and keeping it wet.

It's not nearly as dangerous as people make it out to be, especially in small doses and with even the most reasonable removal and disposal precautions. Don't kid yourself to think that the average asbestos-licensed contractor who tents your house is using anyone other than $8/hr illegal laborers who know next to nothing more than what they're been told.

It's not that big of a deal, folks... some people doomsday the flu shot, too, lol.
 

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You can look up a lab in your area and take them a sample. If it was built before '86 it probably has it in there.

I would wet it with a pump sprayer and scrape it off. Since there isn't anything in the house and you're getting new appliances and carpet I would definitely do it yourself. Wear some old cloths and a mask and keep it plenty moist to reduce the dust. Make sure you throw out the clothes and clean up when you're done. I know it's bad stuff, but something about the whole deal doesn't smell kosher. Someone is getting rich cleaning this stuff up and arguing in the court room. So much money involved it just smells a little. I can see people that have worked around it day in and day out for years getting sick from it, but if you take a few precautions to protect yourself, I don't think it is going to kill you because you looked at it funny.

QF100%T

Every person I have seen with asbestos-related lung cancer (a few, not tons, but a few) had years of close contact with the stuff. Mostly navy shipyards. Hell, some researchers used to open 50lb sacks and *poof* drop it into barrels, inhaling the particles in massive amounts. Yet the rate of illness from it is still extremely extremely small in proportion to the exposure that was out there.

Be smart about it, take reasonable precautions and go about your life.
 
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Maybe you could put a new ceiling in lower than the existing one.

I think that is called encapsulation. A perfectly fine way to deal with possible asbestos, 'cause you don't actually KNOW is is asbestos do you. I'd give it a coat of paint to seal it and cover it with a new layer of dry wall.
 

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The " get a pro" part is mostly about the registered land fill disposal part of the job

Even a numbnuts like me can get certified to do abatement ( no longer current ).... legal disposal is the cost

BS? Ask the former mayor of Elk City.... He did time for ignoring the laws regarding asbestos removal
 

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Check back in in this thread in 20 years and hopefully you will be cancer free.
Concrete dust (silica sand) is supposed to be the new asbestos.
 

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