Whenever I'm at the range and I empty a 15 round magazine at a 200 yard target that's 10 yards away, and the x ring is unscathed, and not even a puff of dust off the berm, I always blame it on the dies. I look around at every body and say, it's gotta be the crimper, maybe even be the decapper, stuff can't be trusted anymore. Then all of a sudden everyone is having trouble with their dies.