I like the idea in the "little house on the prairie" books, when Pa taught the teacher how to use a bullwhip on the local bullies.
oh *snap*
oh *snap*
I hope I dont stand alone on this, but I have instructed both of my boys to not stand for being picked on and bullied. If they are getting hurt by anyone else, or see someone not able to defend themselves and all options have been exhausted then to do whatever is needed to make the abuse stop.
If im getting picked on or someone is hurting me you can bet your ass im going to put a stop to it.. If im in walmart parking lot and see a couple of guys jumping and someone I will call the police and promptly put a stop to it. If i need to break a few knee caps to do so, then so be it I will be able to sleep better that night.
I cant punish them for doing what I would do and have instructed them to do. If the school system has a problem with it fine by me.. Do something different to stop the problem. Encouraging a kid to be a ***** is a dangerous thing to do, those kids normally show up at school at some point with a gun because they are tired of the BS. I refuse to let my boys become some news story about some kid that could not take the abuse any longer and decided that it would be best if he didnt exist any more... Damn that.. not happening here.
If for any reason I think that they were the ones starting trouble the punishment would be swift and severe. The thought process needed to make the right call in these situations will help them throughout life. Im trying to raise a couple of Good Men. Not someone who is afraid to stand up for themselves, turns a blind eye to people getting hurt when they can do something about it.
If im getting picked on or someone is hurting me you can bet your ass im going to put a stop to it.. If im in walmart parking lot and see a couple of guys jumping and someone I will call the police and promptly put a stop to it. If i need to break a few knee caps to do so, then so be it I will be able to sleep better that night.
I cant punish them for doing what I would do and have instructed them to do. If the school system has a problem with it fine by me.. Do something different to stop the problem. Encouraging a kid to be a ***** is a dangerous thing to do, those kids normally show up at school at some point with a gun because they are tired of the BS. I refuse to let my boys become some news story about some kid that could not take the abuse any longer and decided that it would be best if he didnt exist any more... Damn that.. not happening here.
If for any reason I think that they were the ones starting trouble the punishment would be swift and severe. The thought process needed to make the right call in these situations will help them throughout life. Im trying to raise a couple of Good Men. Not someone who is afraid to stand up for themselves, turns a blind eye to people getting hurt when they can do something about it.
I got suspended my SR of HS cause a guy kept pinching my little sister on the ass during art class. She had told him numerous times to stop but he didn't.
So I did what any big brother worth his salt would do. The principal was getting on to me and said "violence doesn't solve anything, you should have come to us." I told him "ask him if he'll do it again."
3 days off and my stepdad let me take the boat out and fish all 3 days. Was awesome.
So I did what any big brother worth his salt would do. The principal was getting on to me and said "violence doesn't solve anything, you should have come to us." I told him "ask him if he'll do it again."
3 days off and my stepdad let me take the boat out and fish all 3 days. Was awesome.
I'm not very old - but kids these days are a bunch of pansy's - well should I say TEACHERS/Principals these days.
What happened to the days when you get the CRAP beat out of you with a paddle. I know this never happened to me - but more so because I was scare shitless of the Principal and his paddle. Things have changed quite a bit in just the last 15 years - its scary to think of where it may be in the next 15...
What happened to the days when you get the CRAP beat out of you with a paddle. I know this never happened to me - but more so because I was scare shitless of the Principal and his paddle. Things have changed quite a bit in just the last 15 years - its scary to think of where it may be in the next 15...
A lot of scouts were dissapointed last weekend because I enforced a no brass no ammo leaves the range policy, didn't want one of them unintentionally taking an expended shotshell to school going see this was cool only to get suspended.
All the above just make me glad that mine have been out of school for a number of years. I will relate the following from about 15 years ago at a metro OKC junior high.
8th grade son had been coming home with some pretty good bruises on his arms and back from school bully punching him at various location around the school. Son had informed teachers but nothing really was done.
The night of parent teacher conferences, I spotted the school principal and he and I went in to his office for a chat. I asked him about the situation and he told me there were addressing it. I informed him that my son would NOT start a fight but the next time this happened he would respond.
Principal told me that he and the other kid would be suspended for fighting per school policy. I politely told him that he would be in court if he tried to suspend my son for defending himself as school administators knew of the situation and had done nothing to stop it. Conversation did not end pleasantly between the principal and me..
Old Navy vet across the street had been teaching my son some boxing lessons from his time in the service with the Golden gloves program of years past.
In summary, bully pounded on son the next week in hallway at school. Son warned him to stop. Bully did not. Son put entire weight into punch that broke the kid's glasses and blood flew everywhere from his nose as he went to his knees.
No mention of suspension for my son, but bully was ultimately kicked out of school permanently for other incidents related to bullying....
Very hard for this type of behavior to corral as I firmly believe that ALL kids at times can be cruel to others.
Don't really know the answer to it but the political correctness in all this stuff has to be tempered with some common sense.
8th grade son had been coming home with some pretty good bruises on his arms and back from school bully punching him at various location around the school. Son had informed teachers but nothing really was done.
The night of parent teacher conferences, I spotted the school principal and he and I went in to his office for a chat. I asked him about the situation and he told me there were addressing it. I informed him that my son would NOT start a fight but the next time this happened he would respond.
Principal told me that he and the other kid would be suspended for fighting per school policy. I politely told him that he would be in court if he tried to suspend my son for defending himself as school administators knew of the situation and had done nothing to stop it. Conversation did not end pleasantly between the principal and me..
Old Navy vet across the street had been teaching my son some boxing lessons from his time in the service with the Golden gloves program of years past.
In summary, bully pounded on son the next week in hallway at school. Son warned him to stop. Bully did not. Son put entire weight into punch that broke the kid's glasses and blood flew everywhere from his nose as he went to his knees.
No mention of suspension for my son, but bully was ultimately kicked out of school permanently for other incidents related to bullying....
Very hard for this type of behavior to corral as I firmly believe that ALL kids at times can be cruel to others.
Don't really know the answer to it but the political correctness in all this stuff has to be tempered with some common sense.
