Yeah... this is the reason I didn't post "my 2¢" sooner.
Congrats! You win! I'm an idiot! Or at least one of us is.
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Congrats! You win! I'm an idiot! Or at least one of us is.
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As they say, “concealed is concealed” and the odds are mighty good that you’ll keep it in your pants.
Just an observation....
We complain that anti-gun laws make law abiding gun owners responsible for criminal conduct, and that's unfair...
We complain that lawsuits make gun manufacturers responsible for criminal conduct, and that's unfair...
We complain that some proposed gun storage laws would make theft victims responsible for criminal conduct, and that's unfair...
But we want to hold business owners responsible for criminal conduct, and that's reasonable.
mmmm, okay.
We complain that anti-gun laws make law abiding gun owners responsible for criminal conduct, and that's unfair...
We complain that lawsuits make gun manufacturers responsible for criminal conduct, and that's unfair...
We complain that some proposed gun storage laws would make theft victims responsible for criminal conduct, and that's unfair...
But we want to hold business owners responsible for criminal conduct, and that's reasonable.
mmmm, okay.
Yeah... this is the reason I didn't post "my 2¢" sooner.
Congrats! You win! I'm an idiot! Or at least one of us is.
Ha ha!! Well whatever, what are ya trying to say, that just because this is all your opinion- “your two cents,” that no one’s allowed to respond without risk of being ridiculed?? Hmm. Your response really doesn’t surprise me.
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Exactly. The only time I wouldn’t wanna carry past that sign is unless it’s in a state or town; if there is any city law and no state law, that gives these people weight of the law towards their no guns sign. Some places, not sure which ones but some of those places, you can actually be at risk of losing your permit if you get in trouble for being in a place that has a no gun sign.
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Enjoy it, 'cause yer goin' on my ignore list (immediately).
FWIW, I neither quoted nor addressed you in my original post. Have a nice day.
Fine with me. Wanna act like a child, that’s your prerogative.
Maybe it’s worth more to you I guess but it doesn’t matter who you quoted or addressed. You make a public post, it’s subject to whoever wishes to respond to it. This is after all, a public forum.FWIW, I neither quoted nor addressed you in my original post. Have a nice day.
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In my opinion an anti gun sign means the store is taking responsibility for everyone's safety inside their store.Just an observation....
We complain that anti-gun laws make law abiding gun owners responsible for criminal conduct, and that's unfair...
We complain that lawsuits make gun manufacturers responsible for criminal conduct, and that's unfair...
We complain that some proposed gun storage laws would make theft victims responsible for criminal conduct, and that's unfair...
But we want to hold business owners responsible for criminal conduct, and that's reasonable.
mmmm, okay.
Put me on that damn jury. There will never be another one of those signs.
The Supreme Court has ruled that the police have no responsibility to protect you. A business owner does not have a higher standard of responsibility for your protection than the police. As has been pointed out repeatedly, you are free to go to another business, or ignore his sign and the worst that happens is he kicks you out. Your choice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/...ot-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/...ot-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
See, thats the rub. As a law abiding citizen I either have to choose to not go to a business, or leave my firearm in the car and hope nothing happens. And again, several on here are under the assumption that the others are advocating that laws prevent businesses from making decisions on what can and cannot be brought onto their private property. That is not the case. If said business wants me to eschew my firearm to patron their establishment, then they should offer some form of assurance that either security is provided or they will compensate due to any injury or loss I suffer if injured due their no firearm policy.
So lets see, either tell my wife no, we can not go to said places which would piss her off, or go and hope nothing happens. Guess its a lose/possibly lose scenario right? If it was up to me, sure I would avoid those places. However, its not just about me. And yes, they are removing my ability to protect myself. As I said, its either go in unarmed or live with my wife constantly pissed at me. Take your guess which one 99% would take.
Its obvious we won't agree on this. As I've said, if it was up to me I wouldn't set foot into a business that has a no firearms policy. But its not just up to me. Not only that, but you failed to discuss what should someone do if they are in a small town and the one store they have available to get something doesn't allow firearms. Kinda puts them in a real bind doesn't it?
So lets see, either tell my wife no, we can not go to said places which would piss her off, or go and hope nothing happens. Guess its a lose/possibly lose scenario right? If it was up to me, sure I would avoid those places. However, its not just about me. And yes, they are removing my ability to protect myself. As I said, its either go in unarmed or live with my wife constantly pissed at me. Take your guess which one 99% would take.
Its obvious we won't agree on this. As I've said, if it was up to me I wouldn't set foot into a business that has a no firearms policy. But its not just up to me. Not only that, but you failed to discuss what should someone do if they are in a small town and the one store they have available to get something doesn't allow firearms. Kinda puts them in a real bind doesn't it?
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