I’m noticing a lot of people getting rid of pistol braces before December.

[GorillaG]

Really? I have zero faith in our courts. And that goes for the SCOTUS too. As was with the bump stock case, they will just decline to hear this. Then the ATF wins. Whether someone agrees with bumpstocks or not, the way they were banned was unconstitutional. And the way a bumpstock works is clearly NOT a machine gun. Just like a pistol brace is clearly NOT a stock. But those facts don’t matter to tyrants.

Also, the recent scotus decisions regarding the 2A and the one with EPA don’t mean squat to the tyrants either. They just do what they want with no repercussions. That’s the way it will always be. And that’s why in the end, we will all be disarmed.

We can always count on Chief Justice John Roberts to snatch a defeat from the jaws of victory. Me thinks his gay cousin has some pics of him getting a "reach around" but it's not been confirmed yet....

 

[Dadof#4]

Seems a lot of people are ditching their pistol braces, tac-14’s, AR pistols & short barrel uppers before the December “rule making” comes out by the ATF.

There’s currently an amnesty period for braces offering to waive the $200 tax if people register them with the NFA.. I’m disappointed. Y’all should keep them and just say no and contact your reps.

Everyone need to contact their senator and House rep as well as their Oklahoma representatives. Alot of people don't give two ***** about braces. If I get tired of a ar pistol and decide to upgrade it, this makes it almost impossible to sell one that is a sbr. This is a second amendment hit, They want money and it will be one of many steps towards their goal. Everyone on here should take the time to contact their reps.

 

[Glocktogo]

Everyone need to contact their senator and House rep as well as their Oklahoma representatives. Alot of people don't give two ***** about braces. If I get tired of a ar pistol and decide to upgrade it, this makes it almost impossible to sell one that is a sbr. This is a second amendment hit, They want money and it will be one of many steps towards their goal. Everyone on here should take the time to contact their reps.

Actually, in this case they're not requiring you to engrave your markings on the gun IF we're reading this correctly. I say that because the ruling is so convoluted and arbitrary, I'm not sure BATFE even understands what they're saying. If correct, you could down the road simply put on a 16"+ barreled upper and have it removed from the registry.

 

[BobbyV]

I wonder if someone goes through the eforms process will the ATF ultimately want pictures to verify the use of a brace and add some stipulation that you can't put on a stock after you get the stamp.

 

[Glocktogo]

I wonder if someone goes through the eforms process will the ATF ultimately want pictures to verify the use of a brace and add some stipulation that you can't put on a stock after you get the stamp.

It's the BATFE, so literally anything is possible.

 

[BobbyV]

It's the BATFE, so literally anything is possible.

 

[HiredHand]

Actually, in this case they're not requiring you to engrave your markings on the gun IF we're reading this correctly. I say that because the ruling is so convoluted and arbitrary, I'm not sure BATFE even understands what they're saying. If correct, you could down the road simply put on a 16"+ barreled upper and have it removed from the registry.

If I remember correctly, you can convert a pistol into a rifle and back into a pistol; but not the other way round.

Can I lawfully make a pistol into a rifle without registering that firearm? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Assuming that the firearm was originally a pistol, the resulting firearm, with an attached shoulder stock, is not an NFA firearm if it has a barrel of 16 inches or more in length. Pursuant to ATF Ruling 2011-4, such rifle may later be unassembled and again configured as a pistol. Such...

www.atf.gov

Assuming that the firearm was originally a pistol, the resulting firearm, with an attached shoulder stock, is not an NFA firearm if it has a barrel of 16 inches or more in length.
Pursuant to ATF Ruling 2011-4, such rifle may later be unassembled and again configured as a pistol. Such configuration would not be considered a “weapon made from a rifle” as defined by 26 U.S.C. § 5845(a)(4).
[26 U.S.C. § 5845, 27 CFR § 479.11]

Last Reviewed January 23, 2020

 

[Treemansam]

If you finish an 80% lower is the form one required? I may not want to finish one.

I would love to try my hand at an 80 if you want to sell it… If you haven’t drilled on it yet.

 

[Treemansam]

Rogers County OK, Sheriff declares county "Second Amendment Sanctuary" - Sanctuary Counties

Sheriff Scott Walton shared a letter on social media addressed to community that said: ”As of today’s date, I am joining other members of the Oklahoma law enforcement community, in declaring Rogers County a ‘Second Amendment Sanctuary.’

sanctuarycounties.com

Do you live in an unincorporated part of the county? If so you might be onto something. If you live in a town there is a good chance the towny cops would love to seize all your stuff under fed jurisdiction.

 

[Treemansam]

If a law is unconstitutional then it is null and void, do the states not have that right?

If you still think the constitution will protect you I’m sad to be the one to inform you that they threw that out a long time ago.