Immigrant vets face deportation despite service

[Glocktogo]

That's exactly the point - you can't have it both ways. If it is serving "their" country" then you take the good with the bad. You can't pick and choose - well we will take their positive contributions, but now they are done "serving us" let's just send them back to where they came from. It doesn't, or SHOULDN'T work like that...

Jonny

That's just it, he wasn't done serving this country before he turned into a felonious drug dealer. Not just a little pot, but hard stuff. He didn't complete his service obligation and when you get a dishonorable discharge, that means your service record is no longer an asset. It can't be used for any benefit whatsoever, including citizenship. Do you think if you join the French Foreign Legion and don't complete your 10 year enlistment, you still get to become a French citizen? It doesn't work that way there and it doesn't work that way here.

Why the hell would we want to grant citizenship to a two time loser? So we could house him for free for life on his impending third felony conviction as a drug dealer?

 

[iriediver]

wow, lets just piss on those that served but came home a little jacked up. lets forget all our vets who come home and screww up. how quick we forget! shameful! especially since some of you are vets.

 

[iriediver]

That's exactly the point - you can't have it both ways. If it is serving "their" country" then you take the good with the bad. You can't pick and choose - well we will take their positive contributions, but now they are done "serving us" let's just send them back to where they came from. It doesn't, or SHOULDN'T work like that...

Jonny

as an "immigrant vet" still serving, i agree. am i serving "their" country or ours???

 

[Glocktogo]

wow, lets just piss on those that served but came home a little jacked up. lets forget all our vets who come home and screww up. how quick we forget! shameful! especially since some of you are vets.

I would have a little more empathy for the guy if he came back and got hooked on drugs due to his mental issues. In case you didn't notice, this guy was convicted for possession with intent to distribute. Not once, but twice. What emotional function does drug DEALING serve?

Sorry, no sympathy here I'm afraid. I'd have no more or less sympathy if the guy was born American either. As a matter of fact, I'd love to see being stripped of citizenship and deportation as a possible penalty for heinous and multiple repeat offenders that are citizens!

 

[Mos Eisley]

No sympathy. I can't believe this is even an issue! Ask the other immigrants that served with honor and distinction how they feel about this. I would guarantee you they wouldn't have any sympathy either.

Oops, I didn't read the ones on this page. I guess I'm wrong judging from the one a couple posts up. I guess you can dishonor yourself and your Branch of Service, while still serving, and still feel entitled to citizenship. Wow! This country is a changin'. And not for the better.

HE DIDN"T FINISH HIS OBLIGATION! CONTRACT NULL AND VOID!

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[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

"As far as I was concerned, I was a citizen,"

And as far as I am concerned, I'm brilliant, good-looking, and rich!

 

[ez bake]

Don't know if I'm reading the article correctly, but it doesn't look like he made it though an entire tour without getting into trouble.

If he had served and completed one tour (with no trouble) and then re-enlisted or moved on in life and got into trouble, I'd feel differently.

I figure one 4-year tour is worth earning your citizenship rights (but then again, I figure if you're worthless and have contributed nothing to society in the way of earning your way though life, you should be deported regardless of where you were born in the US).

Sucks for him - lots of US-born service members get into the same rut but they only have to worry about prison time, etc... Not deportation.

Still, I gotta agree, if you screw up without even completing an enlistment, you broke the rules and the deal is null and void.

 

[de-evoproject]

wow, lets just piss on those that served but came home a little jacked up. lets forget all our vets who come home and screww up. how quick we forget! shameful! especially since some of you are vets.

Hey dude, any of my guy that came back a little messed up, I'm all for helping. When we got back to Germany we had some issues with guys drinking, fighting and even a couple using drugs. We tried to help them or get them help and were mostly sucessful. I don't remember any of them SELLING drugs because they were mentally/emotionally messed up. Thats not an emotional problem.

And you really have to work at getting a dishonorable discharge. REALLY work at it. You usually have to hit one of the big crimes (murder, rape, selling hardcore drugs, etc). There are a couple of different levels between honorable and dishonorable and it takes some doing to fall that low.

As a vet i feel i am fully within my rights to say, if you are a vet you should be held to a higher standard than most. You are an example of the best of the best. Act like it. If you can't don't try to hide behind your military service.

This guy is a drug dealing parasite who couldn't finish his contract, managed a dishonorable discharge and is trying to use his half a__'d attempt at service as a cowardly shield to dodge what he brought on himself. And painting REAL vets who served the WHOLE term and came out HONORABLE in a negative light Don't just deport him, stick him in a rubber raft floating off the coast of who knows where, give him a knife, a grin and a "good luck".

 

[kroberts2131]

No sympathy. The guy can't seem to stay out of trouble. His problems started during the first gulf war and his last conviction was in 2008. That nearly 20 years of being in trouble. It takes a lot to get a dishonorable discharge. They don't just kick you out with the equivalent of a felony for underage drinking or smoking a little pot. They do that when you have committed a SERIOUS crime. I know guys who have tried to get kicked out and couldn't. Its not easy.

 

[HMCS(FMF)Ret.]

That's exactly the point - you can't have it both ways. If it is serving "their" country" then you take the good with the bad. You can't pick and choose - well we will take their positive contributions, but now they are done "serving us" let's just send them back to where they came from. It doesn't, or SHOULDN'T work like that...

Jonny

Sure we can...just watch!!! No we don't want criminals in our society, and we DO have the right to deport those that aren't citizens.