Interesting perspective for all the past shootings drugs perhaps?

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Seen this posted on another forum I Did not write it just sharing what you think?


Why is no one looking at the common link to all these straight A kids going crazy? The med's they are on have adverse reactions of violence, rage and delusions, why is nobody reporting on this?

1.Huntsville, Alabama – February 5, 2010: 15-year-old Hammad Memon shot and killed another Discover Middle School student Todd Brown. Memon had a history for being treated for ADHD and depression. He was taking the antidepressant Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.” He had been seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist.

2.Kauhajoki, Finland – September 23, 2008: 22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. He was also seeing a psychologist.

3.Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system. He had been seeing a psychiatrist.

4.Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.

5.Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa #$%$ stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show #$%$ had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.

6.Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 7 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.

7.Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”. He had previously seen a psychiatrist.

8.Wahluke, Washington – April 10, 2001: Sixteen-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. He had been taking the antidepressant Effexor.

9.El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

10.Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.

11.Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with the stimulant Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.

12.Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold’s medical records remain sealed. Both shooters had been in anger-management classes and had undergone counseling. Harris had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

13.Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.

14.Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending “anger control classes” and was under the care of a psychologist...
 
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Because they are FDA approved with their known side effects acknowledged.

By the way, it can be interesting to read that pamphlet that comes with your meds... especially the reported side effects section. Some of them can really make you scratch your head as to how the FDA could claim to have "safety" in mind when approving them.
 

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Seen this posted on another forum I Did not write it just sharing what you think?


Why is no one looking at the common link to all these straight A kids going crazy? The med's they are on have adverse reactions of violence, rage and delusions, why is nobody reporting on this?

1.Huntsville, Alabama – February 5, 2010: 15-year-old Hammad Memon shot and killed another Discover Middle School student Todd Brown. Memon had a history for being treated for ADHD and depression. He was taking the antidepressant Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.” He had been seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist.

2.Kauhajoki, Finland – September 23, 2008: 22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. He was also seeing a psychologist.

3.Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system. He had been seeing a psychiatrist.

4.Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.

5.Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa #$%$ stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show #$%$ had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.

6.Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 7 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.

7.Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”. He had previously seen a psychiatrist.

8.Wahluke, Washington – April 10, 2001: Sixteen-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. He had been taking the antidepressant Effexor.

9.El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

10.Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.

11.Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with the stimulant Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.

12.Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold’s medical records remain sealed. Both shooters had been in anger-management classes and had undergone counseling. Harris had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.

13.Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.

14.Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending “anger control classes” and was under the care of a psychologist...

Based on personal experience, I think there's more to this than is realized by even mental health professionals. I was diagnosed with mild PTSD after my return from Iraq in 2008. The doctor at the VA put me on Zoloft. After 2-3 weeks on that drug I was feeling really weird, but thought it was just me. One night, while my wife was having after work drinks with her cousin, I was watching our baby boy. He was in a state that night and wouldn't quit crying for anything. After a couple hours of this, I was at my wits end. I had tried everything I knew how to do, but nothing was working. As I was holding him, I fortunately had the presence of mind to realize what I was about to do. I caught myself lifting him slightly as if I was going to throw him down. Realizing what I was about to do, I was immediately horrified and lay him on the couch and called my wife to ask her to come home. I stopped taking that drug the very next day. I was later placed on Prozac, but have taken myself completely off that because, in my opinion, I was too apathetic about everything. I've been told by more than one mental health professional that finding the right drug is a crap shoot. From my limited experience that's true. I'd rather live drug free and deal with the bouts of depression, crying at odd times and occasional angry sounding outbursts, than live with a medicated mind.
 

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There is a dramatically increased risk of psychotic and/or suicidal behavior when beginning OR ending use of many of these drugs.
That's not to blame the drug directly but doctors are emphatic that engaging or disengaging from use of these drugs involves dramatically increased risks.

I would be willing to be that some of the incidents in the OP involved the cessation of use while not being monitored by a physician, to include Adam Lanza.
 

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Here is what Larry Correia has to say :

The vast majority[of mass shooting killers] (last I saw it was over 80%) are on some form of psychotropic drug and has been for many years. They have been on Zoloft or some serotonin inhibitor through their formative years, and their decision making process is often flawed. They are usually disaffected, have been bullied, pushed around, and have a lot of emotional problems. They are delusional. They see themselves as victims, and they are usually striking back at their peer group.

Read his entire article - it is gold IMO http://www.okshooters.com/showthread.php?159651-Gun-Control-Arguments-Defeated
 

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I've posted the info below several times and never gotten a comment on it. It is solid documentation but I guess some think it's "bashing".

SSRI's linked to school shootings etc.

http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=school

On the homepage there are listings for;

Soldier Cases
School Shootings / Incidents
Journal Articles
Workplace Violence
Celebrity Cases
Highly Publicized Cases
Won SSRI Criminal Cases
Women Teacher Molestations
Postpartum Cases
Murder-Suicides
Murders / Murder Attempts
Suicides / Suicide Attempts
Road Rage Cases
 

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The Physicians' Desk Reference lists the following adverse reactions (side effects) to antidepressants among a host of other physical and neuropsychiatric effects. None of these adverse reactions (side effects) is listed as Rare. They are all listed as either Frequent or as Infrequent:


Manic Reaction (Mania, e.g., Kleptomania, Pyromania, Dipsomania, Nymphomania)
Hypomania (e.g., poor judgment, over spending, impulsivity, etc.)
Abnormal Thinking
Hallucinations
Personality Disorder
Amnesia
Agitation
Psychosis
Abnormal Dreams
Emotional Lability (Or Instability)
Alcohol Abuse and/or Craving
Hostility
Paranoid Reactions
Confusion
Delusions
Sleep Disorders
Akathisia (Severe Inner Restlessness)
Discontinuation (Withdrawal) Syndrome
Impulsivity

http://ssristories.com/index.html
 

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There appear to be several common themes - pronounced psychological problems, treatment via psycho-active drugs, and perhaps a lack of in-facility treatment. Several folks have commented that many are treated by these same drugs without incident, and that is true, but there are also very severe, well documented side effects among a statistically significant minority.

I also happen to think that anyone who has a family member with significant psychological issues - even if a temporary situation - has a special obligation to ensure that personal weapons are NOT accessible to that person.
 

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