Judge issues order to block "anti-muslim" amendment

[finnimus]

A STATE judge ruled that under Sharia law, the husband had a right to rape and beat his wife.

Here is a reference to the case in question in New Jersey.

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/fischer/100725

The judge did not rule that the husband had a right to rape and beat his wife. The judge determined he did not have "criminal intent," and without criminal intent, she could not convict him. She used a fuzzy part of the law (I use the term law loosely here) around cultural defense to apply strict interpretation of the law around intent. In my opinion, a poor decision on her part, but that doesn't mean we can say she "ruled under Sharia law" or that "Sharia law has been accepted in our courts."

The article link above also leads readers to believe that the restraining order wasn't given b/c of the husbands "rights" under Sharia law. That is also incorrect. The judge states she is not issuing a restraining order because the parties have no reason to come in contact with each other because they are already divorced (although she admits there is a chance they will interact once the child is born). Once again, another poor decision on her part.

Whether or not you agree with what I said above, I encourage you to read about the case rather than take the word of others. As I said in another thread, you will probably be surprised by some of what you read. Lots of misinformation out there. I haven't found the original case, but the following link has a good summary:
http://lawlibrary.rutgers.edu/courts/appellate/a6107-08.opn.html

 

[okgirl]

Whats the use in voting if some ******* lifetime appointed federal judge is gonna ignore the will of the people?

Here it is in a nut shell- If you live in AMERICA, then you will follow and be judged by AMERICAN LAW!!!! If you dont like that, pack up your crap and leave the country!!!! How hard is that to figure out!!!

 

[Werewolf]

Actually we have an appointed judiciary to protect from the kind of demagoguery that this bill represents.

Get back to us when your daughter (if you've got one - pretend if you don't) marries some muslim who beats hell out of her because she didn't wear her head dress or left home with out a male escort and the courts say she got what she deserved under Sharia law.

What!

You say that can't happen?

Already happened in New Jersey.

Verdict got overthrown on appeal but that's a different circuit. Doesn't apply to the 10th.

Call it what you want PoopGiggle (interesting handle by the way) but for the time being this is still the USA and any precedents set should be based on US custom not the customs of a bunch of immigrants who won't assimilate.

And before anyone jumps in and says we're all immigrants: POPPYCOCK!

The only difference between us and the so called Native Americans is they immigrated first. And then couldn't even hold on to what they had.

Do I sound ANGRY! GOOD! I am.

This country is going to hell in a hand basket and a big reason is all this multi-culturalism crap that's been forced down our throats.

MC hasn't worked anywhere on the planet in any other country. It isn't going to work in the USA either.

 

[ez bake]

Get back to us when your daughter (if you've got one - pretend if you don't) marries some muslim who beats hell out of her because she didn't wear her head dress or left home with out a male escort and the courts say she got what she deserved under Sharia law.

What!

You say that can't happen?

Already happened in New Jersey.

Verdict got overthrown on appeal but that's a different circuit. Doesn't apply to the 10th.

Call it what you want PoopGiggle (interesting handle by the way) but for the time being this is still the USA and any precedents set should be based on US custom not the customs of a bunch of immigrants who won't assimilate.

And before anyone jumps in and says we're all immigrants: POPPYCOCK!

The only difference between us and the so called Native Americans is they immigrated first. And then couldn't even hold on to what they had.

Do I sound ANGRY! GOOD! I am.

This country is going to hell in a hand basket and a big reason is all this multi-culturalism crap that's been forced down our throats.

MC hasn't worked anywhere on the planet in any other country. It isn't going to work in the USA either.

What case was this? I doubt the details are exactly as you described.

 

[poopgiggle]

Get back to us when your daughter (if you've got one - pretend if you don't) marries some muslim who beats hell out of her because she didn't wear her head dress or left home with out a male escort and the courts say she got what she deserved under Sharia law.

That's not even what the original, incorrect decision said. Read it more carefully, and read about it from a source that isn't some "SAVE OUR CHRISTIAN HERITAGE" lobbying group.

And of course all Muslims act this way, and domestic violence is TOTALLY unknown among Christians

Call it what you want PoopGiggle (interesting handle by the way)

Funny story about this handle. I'll tell it sometime.

but for the time being this is still the USA and any precedents set should be based on US custom not the customs of a bunch of immigrants who won't assimilate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia

This country is going to hell in a hand basket and a big reason is all this multi-culturalism crap that's been forced down our throats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia

MC hasn't worked anywhere on the planet in any other country. It isn't going to work in the USA either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia

Seriously, if you take one judge's tenuous reading of law in New Jersey and extrapolate it to "ZOMG SCOTUS IS GOING TO START CITING SHARIA LAW IN DECISIONS" you have some serious issues to address.

 

[Michael Brown]

Do I sound ANGRY! GOOD! I am.

This country is going to hell in a hand basket and a big reason is all this multi-culturalism crap that's been forced down our throats.

MC hasn't worked anywhere on the planet in any other country. It isn't going to work in the USA either.

The country goes to hell in a handbasket when people forget to respect other people, which you are doing simply because you are angry.

Multiculturalism has worked anywhere where people decided to appreciate each other's virtues and exploit them for the common good.

It ceases to work when one or more groups decide their way is better than another's and try to force it on them rather than abiding by a few simple principles of common good.

The beauty of our constitution is that it only has a few hard, undebateable rules, i.e. what I would refer to as the common good, respect everyone, keep your hands to yourself rules.

Michael Brown

 

[vvvvvvv]

Still don't see what was wrong with a judge following proper procedure...

 

[71buickfreak]

Yeah, what deja said - the short answer is "every right" - that's what courts do - that's what they're supposed to do, interpret the constitutionality of a law. It could have been brought in front of a state court judge, with likely the same ruling. The Plaintiff got to choose their forum on this federal question case, and they happened to choose federal court. So it's not really the "feds" doing it to us here - it's just *a* court of general jurisdiction applying the U.S. Constitution to a state law that is pretty patently violative of the 1A.

Actually, you are wrong. The courts took it upon themselves to start legistlating from the bench. NOWHERE in the constitution does it give the courts the authority to judge laws and their constitutionality, they took that on themselves. Over time, it has become accepted as the norm, but in reality, that is not what they are there for. This is a republic, when we vote, that vote is all that matters. The courts have taken it upon themselves to be "above reproach", and we (by we I mean our forefathers) have let that happen.

As far as this being racist, or against one religion, you didn't read it. It actually blocks all international law (INCLUDING Sharia) from being considered in an Oklahoma court. In reality, this addressed a non-issue, federal law already trumps international law. I still voted for it, and it opened some veins and showed where some loyalties lie.

This and all the other similar laws and court battles we are seeing is the beginning of a true holy war coming to our soil. Mix with that the impending race war, and I think you can where this is all going- straight to hell.

I truly thought that we were starting to leave racism behind, but I see so many people who are anti-obama, anti-illegals that are doing it just because they are racist. Instead of being against the actual issue, they call names and propogate hate mongering and that just really makes me sad. I don't care what color your skin is, your actions are what are important.

 

[poopgiggle]

This and all the other similar laws and court battles we are seeing is the beginning of a true holy war coming to our soil. Mix with that the impending race war, and I think you can where this is all going- straight to hell.

I cannot describe, in words, how much this made my day.

 

[JD8]

MC hasn't worked anywhere on the planet in any other country. It isn't going to work in the USA either.

There's an amount of ignorance in terms of history in this statement.