Just a thought for donsideration..........

[michaelnc4444]

I wouldn't do it because at this point I don't think anyone can have "too much". Until we better know what legislation could come down anything you get a hold of, you should hang onto. My two cents...

Having said that, if some has the ability to make a few bucks... Well, that is what capitalism is all about. Though I can agree that price gouging when people need it, is a low thing to do, I will never fault someone for making a buck when they can. Also, the market can only bear so much, prices will mellow for a while in the near future. Then depending on what happens with the GC argument, prices will either spike dramatically or drop like a stone.

Last point to make. For some people they really can't afford to buy right now, unless they can get a decent deal on two then sell one for double the price. Essentially getting one for free or near to it. Though that may not be the most noble thing to do, it is smart economics.

 

[Porter]

I wouldn't do it because at this point I don't think anyone can have "too much". Until we better know what legislation could come down anything you get a hold of, you should hang onto. My two cents...

Having said that, if some has the ability to make a few bucks... Well, that is what capitalism is all about. Though I can agree that price gouging when people need it, is a low thing to do, I will never fault someone for making a buck when they can. Also, the market can only bear so much, prices will mellow for a while in the near future. Then depending on what happens with the GC argument, prices will either spike dramatically or drop like a stone.

Last point to make. For some people they really can't afford to buy right now, unless they can get a decent deal on two then sell one for double the price. Essentially getting one for free or near to it. Though that may not be the most noble thing to do, it is smart economics.

It may be smart economics, but if you're buying to sell for a profit without an FFL, the ATF considers it a felony.

 

[yukonjack]

It may be smart economics, but if you're buying to sell for a profit without an FFL, the ATF considers it a felony.

And how are they gonna determine that was your intent when you bought it???

 

[Porter]

And how are they gonna determine that was your intent when you bought it???

Well, I think if you buy it for $185 at 10am and then list it on Armslist for $400 at noon there's a pretty good chance. You may not get in a lot of trouble the first time, but I promise you will find yourself on a list you don't want to be on......

 

[Buzzgun]

Well, I think if you buy it for $185 at 10am and then list it on Armslist for $400 at noon there's a pretty good chance. You may not get in a lot of trouble the first time, but I promise you will find yourself on a list you don't want to be on......

And how are you going to get on "the list"??

How are the feds going to know that a person purchased a lower the same day they listed it for sale on Armslist??

You do realize that the NICS check doesn't ask for the specific make, model or serial number of the firearm being transferred, don't you??

The BATF would have to contact the seller and actually record the make model and serial number of the lower (the seller would have to be stupid to release that info without a warrant), then, they would have to trace it from the manufacturer to the distributor, to the FFL and, then go to the FFL and check the 4473 to see who bought it and when. Then, the most difficult part, they would have to prove that the seller bought the lower with the intention of selling it for profit, instead of simply changing his mind because his wife found out he spent more money on "gun stuff" without asking her and she told him to sell it or else.

Bottom line, forget it, it simply isn't going to happen unless you do this on a regular basis, even then, unless you are buying and selling a LOT of guns, the chance of being prosecuted is slim.


And, NO, I'm not one of those buying and selling guns for profit, I buy what I like and keep them.

 

[Buzzgun]

Dude, you need to adjust your tinfoil hat!

Show me where the law says you can't buy a gun and sell it at a profit without having an FFL??

Show me how long you have to keep a gun before you can sell it without an FFL??

A guy that buys a couple of lowers and flips them at a profit so he can afford that custom upper he has been wanting is not going to go to jail for it!

If a gun you bought and resold was used in a crime, then, yes, the law will probably come knocking, but, unless you were "engaged in the business" of REPETITIVELY selling guns for profit, and they can prove it, they aren't going to bust you.

The thought that some dealer is going to see a lower you purchased this morning, on Armslist this afternoon, and report you to the BATF, who is then going to get a warrant and raid your house, is simply silly.

18 USC Sec. 921 01/03/2012 (112-90)

-EXPCITE-
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 44 - FIREARMS

-HEAD-
Sec. 921. Definitions

(11) The term "dealer" means (A) any person engaged in the
business of selling firearms at wholesale or retail, (B) any person
engaged in the business of repairing firearms or of making or
fitting special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms,
or (C) any person who is a pawnbroker. The term "licensed dealer"
means any dealer who is licensed under the provisions of this
chapter.

21) The term "engaged in the business" means -
(C) as applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section
921(a)(11)(A), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to
dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with
the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the
repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such term shall
not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or
purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal
collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his
personal collection of firearms;

(22) The term "with the principal objective of livelihood and
profit" means that the intent underlying the sale or disposition of
firearms is predominantly one of obtaining livelihood and pecuniary
gain, as opposed to other intents, such as improving or liquidating
a personal firearms collection: Provided, That proof of profit
shall not be required as to a person who engages in the regular and
repetitive purchase and disposition of firearms for criminal
purposes or terrorism. For purposes of this paragraph, the term
"terrorism" means activity, directed against United States persons,
which -