Justice Dept Report on Ferguson MO

[Shootin 4 Fun]

Did anyone else listen to Holder's press conference? I have to admit, I didn't hate the Justice Departments report on the situation in Ferguson. They did conclude that the police department primary purpose is to generate revenue for the city and the primary targets for revenue generation are blacks. The findings don't justify the post shooting violence and rioting, but it helps to understand that the citizens were mostly standing up to government corruption.

I wonder, is this how far we must go to get the government's attention?

The Ferguson Police Department routinely violated the constitutional rights of the local African-American population in the Missouri city for years, the Department of Justice has found in a searing report.

The investigation, launched after the August shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, found that the department violated the Fourth Amendment in instances such as making traffic stops without reasonable suspicion and making arrests without probable cause.

The report provides direct evidence of racial bias among police officers and court workers, and details a criminal justice system that through the issuance of petty citations for infractions such as walking in the middle of the street, prioritizes generating revenue from fines over public safety.

The practice hits poor people especially hard, sometimes leading to jail time when they can't pay, the report says, and has contributed to a cynicism about the police on the part of citizens.

The official release of the report could come as early as Wednesday. The details were provided to Fox News on Tuesday by law enforcement officials familiar with the department's findings.

The Justice Department alleges that the discrimination was triggered at least partly by racial bias and stereotypes about African-Americans, a violation of the 14th Amendment. The report details a November 2008 email on an official Ferguson municipal account which joked that President Obama would not be president for long because “what black man holds a steady job for four years?”

From 2012 to 2014, the report found, African-Americans comprised 85 percent of people pulled over for a traffic stop; 90 percent of those given citations; and 93 percent of arrests.

Also, African-American drivers were more than twice as likely to be searched during a traffic stop than white drivers, but that those black drivers were 26 percent less likely to be found to be holding contraband.

The report also accuses the Ferguson police of using unreasonable force in violation of the Fourth Amendment, and that 88 percent of those cases involved African-Americans.

Overall, blacks make up 67 percent of Ferguson's population.

The Justice Department began the civil rights investigation following the August killing of Brown, which set off weeks of protests. A separate report to be issued soon is expected to clear the officer, Darren Wilson, of federal civil rights charges.

The department has conducted roughly 20 broad civil rights investigations of police departments during the six-year tenure of Attorney General Eric Holder, including Cleveland, Newark, New Jersey and Albuquerque. Most such investigations end with police departments agreeing to change their practices.

Justice Department officials were in St. Louis on Tuesday to brief Ferguson leaders about the findings, a city official said.

Several messages seeking comment from Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson and Mayor James Knowles III were not returned. A secretary for Jackson said he is not doing media interviews.

Scott Holste, a spokesman for Gov. Jay Nixon, declined comment, saying he has not seen the report.

Ben Crump, the attorney for the Brown family, said that if the reports about the findings are true, they "confirm what Michael Brown's family has believed all along, and that is that the tragic killing of an unarmed 18-year-old black teenager was part of a systemic pattern of inappropriate policing of African-American citizens in the Ferguson community."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-report-finds-racial-bias-in-ferguson-police/

 

[dennishoddy]

Did anyone else listen to Holder's press conference? I have to admit, I didn't hate the Justice Departments report on the situation in Ferguson. They did conclude that the police department primary purpose is to generate revenue for the city and the primary targets for revenue generation are blacks. The findings don't justify the post shooting violence and rioting, but it helps to understand that the citizens were mostly standing up to government corruption.

I wonder, is this how far we must go to get the government's attention?



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-report-finds-racial-bias-in-ferguson-police/

This is a quote from Fox news.

The New World Order and libs on here will not believe a word you just posted. The link is totally false, and full of inaccuracies.

What did MSNBC say about this? That's a credible news source.

 

[Defnestor]

meh
I expected Holder's report to conclude the Ferguson P.D. were burning blacks alive, on crosses, without reading them their rights. He's not having a good week for race baiting.

 

[Driller]

Did the extensive investigation find that if you attack a police officer in his car, and put him in fear for his life, you can expect to get smoked?

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

Did the extensive investigation find that if you attack a police officer in his car, and put him in fear for his life, you can expect to get smoked?

Yes, as a matter of fact, it did.

 

[Lurker66]

From the report it sounds like the citizens were right. I bet the PD leadership get the boot and it's a shame these same people who allowed this to fester and continue will find jobs as officers in other juristictions.

 

[dennishoddy]

I found the results were skewed.

In a community where black citizens are 90% of the population and most are at poverty level or worse, of course they will be stopped more times that white people. There are very few white people there.

So even if they used the stat that black citizens constitute 17% of the population, and should only be stopped in the percentage of the nationwide population vs the actual population of Ferguson, that would mean nobody would get stopped for anything or it would be a racist stop for speeding.

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

From the report it sounds like the citizens were right. I bet the PD leadership get the boot and it's a shame these same people who allowed this to fester and continue will find jobs as officers in other juristictions.

I don't know what a "juristiction" is, but I it sounds like the pressure is coming from above the PD leadership. Unfortunately, it went on so long that the cops began making a game of writing citations.

Our law enforcement departments need to get out of the revenue generation game, it just breeds corruption.

 

[Driller]

Our law enforcement departments need to get out of the revenue generation game, it just breed corruption.

Absolutely. When you mix enrichment with enforcement, you have a recipe for oppression.

 

[Lurker66]

I don't know what a "juristiction" is, but I it sounds like the pressure is coming from above the PD leadership. Unfortunately, it went on so long that the cops began making a game of writing citations.

Our law enforcement departments need to get out of the revenue generation game, it just breeds corruption.

Yes I agree. My point is these officers knew what they were doing was wrong. Just because your boss orders you to make a illegal stop doesn't mean you have to.

I'm sure there is a chain of command. So some civilian(mayor, councilman, DA) tells the Police chief he needs more revenue, Chief tells the Captains who tell the Lieutenant s who tells the Sargents who tell the patrolman to write more tickets. Then the Patrolman starts writing BS tickets, making BS stops and generally violating the trust of the citizens.

They all should be fired and never allowed to work in Law enforcement ever again. None of them.