M1 Garand / M1A / M-14 Thread

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OK, I spoke with a friend who was involved in the arsenal rebuilds circa 1966, and here's what he had to say about the topic of finishes and rebuilds:



So there's no simple answer that will fit all rifles. It'd have to take an inspection of the rifle by someone "in the know" to determine whether or not a given rifle was a rebuild, and even then, there will be different shades of certainty in the answer. That having been said, if you got a WW2 M1 straight from the CMP that was billed as a Service Grade, and the finish was uniform across all the metal, it would probably be safe to assume you've gotten an arsenal rebuild, especially if the barrel was post-war dated. Now if it's a post-war M1, determining whether or not it's original or a rebuild gets fuzzy.

You're making my head hurt.

Edit: Anybody have any Navy Garands in their collection?
 
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No Navy Garands here, but this weekend I finished up a project that I'd been doing for almost a year - putting together an all-correct M1 Garand made by Winchester. Well, I still have to find a couple correct screws, but the rifle is probably 95% correct, and I'm satisfied with it. Here are a couple shots:

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It's a 1.33M WRA rifle, with a DOB of May 1943. The barrel is original and in excellent shape. If anyone's interested, I can provide more details and pics regarding the restoration. I'm quite pleased with the results :)
 
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OK - just remember, you asked :wink2:

This was a Field Grade M1 that I got from the CMP in January 2011; at that time, the CMP had just put up for sale a number of FG WRA's with original WRA barrels, something of a rarity these days. I got lucky with a 1.33M rifle (born May 1943) with a WRA barrel measuring 1.25 at the muzzle and 2 at the throat, which are excellent numbers for a WW2 barrel. The rifle originally came with a power-washed and very dry stock with only a pair of very faint proof cartouches remaining. When I field-stripped the rifle, I realized the stock, which would normally be nearly worthless, had a date code stamped into the barrel channel, which meant it was a rare International Harvester M1 stock. So that was another bit of good luck, and I put several coats of pure tung oil (cut with citrus solvent) on the stock to stabilize it, and put it away in case I ever find an early IHC M1 in need of correct wood. A few months later, I acquired a WRA/GHD stock, correct for the mid-war WRA rifles, and installed it on the rifle along with better-quality handguards with correct WRA metal. Here's a close-up of the WRA/GHD cartouche; you can also see an RA-P cartouche below and to the left, indicating this stock had been through the Raritan, NJ arsenal some time after WW2 but before 1963, when the arsenal was closed:

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Note the two different areas of coloration on the heel of the receiver; this meant that the factory lead-dipped the heel of this receiver, which made the rear of the receiver more durable to better withstand the slamming of the bolt and op rod during firing. It took me most of the year to collect the rest of the correct WRA parts: trigger housing, trigger, safety, short-fork follower rod, follower and guide, bolt, firing pin, clip latch, front sight, gas cylinder, single-slot gas plug, etc. The rifle came with a mix of SA parts, though the hammer and trigger guard were already WRA. Here are a few shots of the parts (note the rough milling marks characteristic of WRA):

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It took me even longer to put together a correct WRA rear sight assembly, including a Type II lock bar:

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My biggest score was finding an uncut WRA op rod correct for this rifle. I was lucky to get it while the seller was setting up for the Wanenmacher show; while I was hashing out a trade with the seller, someone else came by and offered to pay cash for the op rod. Sorry Charlie! Note the circled WRA proof on the barrel.

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It was a fun project, but I don't know if I'd do that again. Maybe with a late-war SA M1, but certainly not with a WRA rifle. Too frustrating and expensive, and better suited to someone far more anal than me :P
 

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