Michigan pushes right-to-work measure(24th state in the nation to adopt R-T-W)

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farmerbyron

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This isn't the exact article I remember but it's close.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/123548844.html




http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wisconsin-police-and-firefighters-didnt-endorse-walker/

Among the many problems when a local debate goes national is that outsiders have little knowledge of the background facts and frequently labor under grossly mistaken ideas.

For example, in the Wisconsin showdown, most of us have been laboring under the notion that Republican Governor Scott Walker exempted police and firefighters from his plan to strip collective bargaining rights from public employees because they endorsed him for election whereas the teachers’ unions and others backed his Democratic opponent.

It turns out that this is completely untrue. Walker tells CBS News’ Chris Wragge:

There are 314 fire and police unions in the state. Four of them endorsed me. All the rest endorsed my opponent.

NewsBusters’ Noel Sheppard has an impressive roundup of newspaper headlines and other proof for those not inclined to take Walker’s word for it.

And it makes sense, once you get past the erroneous factoid that got us on the wrong track to begin with. After all, despite being exempted from the change in the law, firefighters and cops have been marching in solidarity with their union brethren.

Yesterday, my colleague Steven Taylor asked a perfectly reasonable question: “If it is a fundamental principle that public sector employees ought not to have the right to collective bargaining, why are the police, firefighters and state troopers of Wisconsin not part of the package?”

On NPR this morning, Walker answered that he couldn’t take the risk of cops and firefighters going out on strike and allow mayhem to ensue.

But that’s an appeal to consequences — and a very dangerous one — rather than a principled reason.
 

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.Misquoted numbers, I assure NOONE in the unions makes anything near that amount.

No offense, but I think I will take the word of Wall Street Journal over a guy on the internet that assures me. That number is an average but it is accurate and it includes benefits. Hourly wage + Insurances (health, life, disability) + paid vacation + pensions + ect. I know at my company benefits are an additional 60%-80% of compensation on top of my salary depending on how much I enroll in.

The union of California state employees has made it to where you retire at 80% compensation. You wonder why California is an economic hell-hole, it is due in LARGE to the California State employees union and these pensions that the taxpayers are forced to burden.

What I find hilarious is that you keep pointing to the laborers as the beneficiaries of the unions while the CEOs and desk drivers should not make the money they do. My boss has a friend that that is a CEO at a hospital near San Diego. This particular hospital was taken over by the county about 10 years ago. He is about to retire and because of the state employee pension plan, he will retire at age 55 at 80% of his compensation which will be about $340,000 year paid for by the California tax payers.

The California government has tried to step in and put a cap on the pensions down to 100-130k, but now it is being sued by the unions.
 

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11b1776, your moniker confuses me....

As for the videos, I suppose we should not trust our lying eyes. I'm sure you will show us competing videos taken by the union side that show the REAL story.

Nope I don't need a union video, I can see that video is edited, your seeing only what you what to see, instead of the whole story, if that's the whole story why is the video edited? Please explain?
 

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Nope I don't need a union video, I can see that video is edited, your seeing only what you what to see, instead of the whole story, if that's the whole story why is the video edited? Please explain?



Under what circumstances is it acceptable to tear down someone else's demonstration? Please tell me how the union could be in the right in this video.
 

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Under what circumstances is it acceptable to tear down someone else's demonstration? Please tell me how the union could be in the right in this video.

I can't tell you, the only part you see, is what they want you to see. The videos are edited to portray themselves as innocent victims, I'm saying if they're so innocent why isn't the whole thing posted not just bits and pieces???
 

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Under what circumstances is it acceptable to tear down someone else's demonstration? Please tell me how the union could be in the right in this video.

I can't tell you, the only part you see, is what they want you to see. The videos are edited to portray themselves as innocent victims, I'm saying if they're so innocent why isn't the whole thing posted not just bits and pieces???


Why not?
 

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