Michigan pushes right-to-work measure(24th state in the nation to adopt R-T-W)

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elwoodtrix

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The union of California state employees has made it to where you retire at 80% compensation. You wonder why California is an economic hell-hole, it is due in LARGE to the California State employees union and these pensions that the taxpayers are forced to burden.

What I find hilarious is that you keep pointing to the laborers as the beneficiaries of the unions while the CEOs and desk drivers should not make the money they do. My boss has a friend that that is a CEO at a hospital near San Diego. This particular hospital was taken over by the county about 10 years ago. He is about to retire and because of the state employee pension plan, he will retire at age 55 at 80% of his compensation which will be about $340,000 year paid for by the California tax payers.

The California government has tried to step in and put a cap on the pensions down to 100-130k, but now it is being sued by the unions.


well, if all the illegals in California paid taxes, there wouldn't be a problem would there????
 

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well, if all the illegals in California paid taxes, there wouldn't be a problem would there????

Well yes and no. If all the illegals it would help meet financial problems! However, I would still have a problem with the state taking near 10% of my paycheck and pay someone 80% of what they used to make + pay someone to do that job.
 
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well, if all the illegals in California paid taxes, there wouldn't be a problem would there????

Heck why should illegals worry about paying taxes? They can get a position as an unpaid congressional intern, even if they are a registered sex offender.




Maybe the illegals will be able to vote not to have to pay any taxes?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-11/u-s-should-consider-automatic-voter-registration-holder.html
U.S. Should Consider Automatic Voter Registration: Holder
By Phil Mattingly - 2012-12-11T23:00:00Z.

Holder, “The desire to achieve an electoral advantage must never trump our democratic values.”:rollingla:rotflmao:
 

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Which part of "above" answers the question from farmerbyron? Specifically, Under what circumstances is it acceptable to tear down someone else's demonstration?

Is your answer; If they are goaded into it?


Ok let me spell it out for you, show me an unedited video where the union guys walk up and just start tearing the tent down. You don't have one. These people could have done any number of things to get to where that video starts. They spin it to your liking and there you go, "union thugs tearing up our poor little tent, we where just standing around not causing any trouble and they just bullied us."

So, SHOW ME unedited video, PLEASE! I'm not gonna take yours or anyone else's word OR there EDITED VIDEO. If there is nothing to hide why is it edited, did they(pro-rtw) start something, or was the unions unprovoked? We don't know because the video only shows the ending....


So there you have it spelled out, you like it as long as it shows your side, but you may not like it if they showed how it got to that. You poke a dog with a stick enough and they will bite...
 

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Just a thought here...maybe they edited out excess 'nothing happening but wasting air time' from their video? One would have to logically assume that if the pro-rtw crowd "poked the dog enough' then they (anti-rtw) would have their own videos plastered on the net. I've looked for those and haven't found any. At the same time, though - we really aren't talking about dogs tearing down those tents; I saw only humans on those videos. Just my thoughts.
 

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What would you expect to see that justified their unjustifiable actions?

Oh wait, the end justifies the means. It's ok to tear down a tent and bash someone in the face because we were goaded...and it's okay to force someone to pay union dues because the union "does good stuff" and we can't allow you to maybe possibly get a free ride sometimes or not in the possible future if you choose to or not.

Just keep saying free ride, free ride, free ride over and over...that'll win the argument.
 

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Ok let me spell it out for you, show me an unedited video where the union guys walk up and just start tearing the tent down. You don't have one. These people could have done any number of things to get to where that video starts. They spin it to your liking and there you go, "union thugs tearing up our poor little tent, we where just standing around not causing any trouble and they just bullied us."

So, SHOW ME unedited video, PLEASE! I'm not gonna take yours or anyone else's word OR there EDITED VIDEO. If there is nothing to hide why is it edited, did they(pro-rtw) start something, or was the unions unprovoked? We don't know because the video only shows the ending....


So there you have it spelled out, you like it as long as it shows your side, but you may not like it if they showed how it got to that. You poke a dog with a stick enough and they will bite...





Longer and shows a minor assault as well as union thugs taking a knife to the tent. Keep defending these thugs, it's making you look ridiculous.
 
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Just a thought here...maybe they edited out excess 'nothing happening but wasting air time' from their video? One would have to logically assume that if the pro-rtw crowd "poked the dog enough' then they (anti-rtw) would have their own videos plastered on the net. I've looked for those and haven't found any. At the same time, though - we really aren't talking about dogs tearing down those tents; I saw only humans on those videos. Just my thoughts.

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Guarantee you that the video was edited so more people would see it. Most people are going to stop watching a 15 min video of people milling around yelling and miss the offenses committed. They edited it to 3 1/2 min to keep from losing people's short ass attention spans.
 

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