Newtown Legislation - Why?

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I'm surprised that y'all believe the government would lie or cover up something. These kinds of conspiracies have always been debunked - just look at The Maine,The Lusitania, FDRs knowledge of Pearl Harbor, Japanese trying to surrender 6 months before the bomb, the Gulf of Tonkin, The USS Liberty, Weapons of Mass Destruction....OUR guvmint would NEVER sacrifice American lives to further a political agenda.
 

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Exactly. Show me security footage of Lanza walking into the school, and down the halls alone, with his one long gun, and I'll let it go.

This. People can discount others as conspiracy nuts if they like, but when it would be so simple to release the footage why not do it? They do not need to release the entire video showing him killing children, but they could show enough to silence the crowd so to speak. Yet they work directly on hiding all evidence possible & just telling everyone to believe their official reports & move along. What is sad is people can watch our corrupt Government do things like Fast & Furious, Benghazi, the IRS scandal, ect... & still refuse to believe they would go this far on our own soil to further an agenda. Honestly that is ignorant. How can one believe our government is corrupt, know they are lying & refuse to accept certain events could have actually been planned or at least allowed to happen at minimum. Do those who refuse to accept that it is even a possibility actually think our government gives a crap about us? And if so why are those willing to jump on the wagon over other scandals so unwilling to accept the fact our government very well could be willing to kill it's own people on our own soil to advance certain politics?
 

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I'm surprised that y'all believe the government would lie or cover up something. These kinds of conspiracies have always been debunked - just look at The Maine,The Lusitania, FDRs knowledge of Pearl Harbor, Japanese trying to surrender 6 months before the bomb, the Gulf of Tonkin, The USS Liberty, Weapons of Mass Destruction....OUR guvmint would NEVER sacrifice American lives to further a political agenda.

A few of those are urban myths...Lusitania and Pearl Harbor are the two I'm well versed on.

I'm not a big fan of believing every rumor that comes downs the pike based solely upon the fact that "it's been done in the past" or "You're naive for not believing my theory."
 
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Uhhh, Lusitania is an urban myth? I'll see your urban myth, and raise you one - not only did FDR know the Japanese would attack, he took steps in the months preceding the attack to ensure such an event would take place. Vowing to stay out of the conflict, yet doing all he and Mr. Churchill could to get the U.S. involved.

try the USS Liberty, that's quite a little cover-up. But, hey, maybe I'm just paranoid....
 

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Uhhh, Lusitania is an urban myth? I'll see your urban myth, and raise you one - not only did FDR know the Japanese would attack, he took steps in the months preceding the attack to ensure such an event would take place. Vowing to stay out of the conflict, yet doing all he and Mr. Churchill could to get the U.S. involved.

try the USS Liberty, that's quite a little cover-up. But, hey, maybe I'm just paranoid....

In a nutshell, offering up our Pacific Fleet and the possibility of losing our two carriers, as well as 6 months worth of fuel oil would have lost the war in the Pacific.
It was pure luck the Imperial fleet didn't spot our carriers, or go after the fuel dumps.
Actually, not luck so much, as other Japanese officers wanted to stick around and look for the carriers and go after the fuel dumps.
(Lexington and Enterprise were delivering aircraft to wake Island and Midway.)
If you follow the course of the war in the Pacific, losing the Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor quite simply would have left the West Coast open for full scale Japanese naval operations.
Not to mention the Battle of Coal Sea, Midway, etc.
All that aside, FDR was asst. Sec of the Navy for a number of years, and had a special fondness of the Navy.

We could have intercepted the Japanese fleet far from Pearl Harbor and still have a viable reason to go to war.
Fact is, our military intel was so inept in those days, people want to believe we knew about it.
We were aware of increased radio communications and correspondence among the Japanese, but didn't know exactly what was going on.
Seeing as to how there were 18 other countries with an army larger than ours, military intelligence wasn't exactly well funded.

It's never been a secret that the Lucy was carrying war munitions, most passenger ships were.
It was such an open secret that the German government ran in ad in American newspapers stating that they'd start torpedoing passenger ships due to this fact, and that passengers were risking their lives by traveling the Atlantic.


Once again, there are enough real dirty secrets that I don't have to swallow every urban myth hook, line, and sinker.

If you'll notice, I have posted topics in regards to what Hussein Obama has done as far as the IRS targeting people, confiscating the records of reporters, Fast and Furious, etc., so I'm well aware of what Presidents will do.

I just don't subscribe to being called naive because I don't believe every tinfoil hat theory that comes down the road.
 
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I didn't say you were naive. I don't believe every conspiracy theory, either. That doesn't deiscredit them all, and our guvmint has a long history of creating/spinning/using varoius events simply for political ends.
 

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I didn't say you were naive. I don't believe every conspiracy theory, either. That doesn't deiscredit them all, and our guvmint has a long history of creating/spinning/using varoius events simply for political ends.

It doesn't discredit them all, but the ones that conflict with the facts do.

For those who thought we offered up the Lusitania to get us into WW1...it was sunk in 1915...we entered the war in 1917.


The media has become too cozy with every President since Kennedy...and the Presidents use it well to their favor.
I really do wish some of the high profile pro-gunners would start placing more emphasis on the correlation between this Reich's attitudes on the First and Second Amendment in the name of "saving lives."
 

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