NRA-PVF endorses Pelosi/Reid ally instead of Conservative

[DirtyDawg]

Once again, the NRA has endorsed a Socialist for election over a PRO-GUN, devout shooter who was supported by the Tea Party folks in New Mexico.
The NRA-PVF selection of Martin Heinrich over John Barela, both running for Senate..

The GOA supports John Barela.

 

[grwd]

NRA is a single issue organization. If a socialist votes pro-gun and supports the 2nd amendment, they will get the NRA's endorsement every time over some schlep waving the conservative flag and voting for "sensible" gun laws.

 

[SMS]

NRA is a single issue organization. If a socialist votes pro-gun and supports the 2nd amendment, they will get the NRA's endorsement every time over some schlep waving the conservative flag and voting for "sensible" gun laws.

Exactly....which is why it is called the National Rifle Association and not the National Social/Economic/Fiscal Conservative Association. They base their endorsments on 2nd Ammendment issues, not Tea Party affiliation.

 

[DirtyDawg]

I see everyone's reasoning.....

I'd much rather have an ally of Harry Reid & Nancy Pelosi win their re-election than take a chance on a non-establishment statesman new to politics that promises to return to the principles of the Constitution.

 

[Michael Brown]

I see everyone's reasoning.....

I'd much rather have an ally of Harry Reid & Nancy Pelosi win their re-election than take a chance on a non-establishment statesman new to politics that promises to return to the principles of the Constitution.

That is not what either of these posters have said but I suppose that is unimportant to some people...........

Michael Brown

 

[DirtyDawg]

The simple fact that the NRA cleverly endorsed Harry Reid instead of his conservative opponent Sharon Angle should make all NRA members concerned about the leadership and true intentions of the organization.

My assessment, which is based on my knowledge of the history of the NRA, the past internal efforts to drive a real Amendment II agenda and the plain fact that most americans do not believe that Amendment II means what it says, leads me to a general conclusion.

First, the upper echelon and the board of the NRA are made up almost entirely of Amendment II compromisers. The nominating committee routinely ensures that Amendment II compromisers are near exclusively 'approved' to be on the ballot.

With the driving force of the NRA comprised of those who believe that government has the right and duty to regulate the what, who, how and where of firearms and who may possess and carry them, the NRA remains 'relevant' in DC power-circles and backroom dealing/lobbying efforts.

The NRA is supportive of gun-ownership for self-defense, hunting, shooting sports and other purposes, but the caveat is that they are firmly of the position that the government must regulate, approve and control (read infringe) the who, what, why, how and where of it.

This is diametrically opposite to what Amendment II states and the easily discernible founders intent in enumerating the RKBA.

They have set themselves up as the 'staunch defender' of the Second Amendment to their membership, all the while they regularly work for 'gun privileges' rather than restoration of the 'fundamental right'.

The NRA has mastered the game and found the balance between their real actions vs their claimed and perceived actions by the faithful membership.

The NRA has a historical trust with the American people. They are considered an American Institution.

Many people have family that are generational members of the NRA and they have that 'institutional trust and faith' that seems to blind most people who own guns and who are NRA members.

Most NRA members are merely gun owners and hunters. They may have a couple or a few guns, but most are NOT aware, studied and knowing constitutionalists or gun-rights advocates.

After all, dad, grandpa, grandma and uncle skippy have all been proud members of the NRA. Gun-owners 'who care about and do something for their rights' are NRA members, right?

I was one of those members who had historical family NRA membership and support. Then I became aware over the years, based on what I actually saw being done, not what I was led to believe and/or was told was being done and why.

Fact is, that most of the NRA membership and most of the citizens of this nation are abjectly ill-informed about the Constitutional and about any of our fundamental, constitutionally-enumerated natural rights.

It is the lazy and/or trusting way for the ignorant to allow or expect someone else to be the watchdog of such things.

The NRA uses this trust and ignorance to great effect.

They crow about being the 'staunch defender' of the Second Amendment, they publish flashy magazines which crow about this 'staunch defense', they crow about liberty and freedom, yet they do not defend the Amendment II enumerated in the BOR's.

They join efforts at times in defense of the ability to carry and own guns and then claim that these efforts are defense of the Second Amendment, which are subsequently trumpeted by the NRA and then by the faithful membership.

These claims are accepted, since most are either ignorant or agree with government controls of firearms.

The insidious cycle generates fear and faith in near equal measure and the 'staunch' NRA is ever ready to solicit your money so they can 'continue to fight for your Second Amendment rights'.

The money flows, the trust and belief (false) is maintained and the power and prestige is there.

We 'need' the NRA, for without them and their efforts, we wouldn't have any guns and we wouldn't have a Second Amendment...or so I've been told, time and again.

And so it continues...

 

[bulbboy]

okay.

 

[vvvvvvv]

I can see the endorsement of Harry Reid simply because it is a LONG shot for the Republicans to get a majority in the Senate. The two front runners for Senate Majority Leader in that case are Chuck Schumer (favorite) and Dick Durbin, both of which make Reid look conservative. Supporting Reid over Angle is good insurance for conservatives.

Republicans need +10 seats to control the Senate. +8 puts them 49-49-2 and +9 puts them 50-48-2 with Joe Biden as the tie-breaker. Polling shows that +8 is likely the best the Republicans will be able to do. If Angle were to win in that +8 or +9, then you'll have some seriously liberal and anti-gun legislation that will be allowed on the floor of the Senate that Reid would not have allowed.

 

[DirtyDawg]

If the NRA would do the job we entrust them with, maybe the tight races between conservatives and gun grabbing liberals would not exist.

 

[farmerbyron]

Veggie, the House looks like it will certainly go right this election. So the Senate can put whatever legislation on the floor it wants to, but it will never pass the house and thus not make it to the white house for a signature. One more R could make the difference for chairmanships and I think the NRA should have pushed for Angle rather than Reid to attempt to gather a majority. With a D majority, chairmanships will be headed by the Boxers, and Schumers, and Rangles anyways so why not push hard to get those bozos out of positions of power? The only door left open with the senate being ran by chuckie would be judicial appointments.

Just joined the GOA today to support a more staunch 2A organization. I am still an NRA member though as the shear numbers they gather lets them yield considerable influence and that will continue to be very important.