Official OSA COVID-19/Corona Virus Thread

[dennishoddy]

Maybe you have already had Covid and didn't know it. Neurosurgeon told us that he had such a reaction after the first shot that he thinks he had already had it and wasn't even aware of it. @Okie4570 tested positive for the antibodies and never even knew he had it. Numerous people, including doctors, have told us to expect much greater reaction to the second dose. Our daughter had nothing but a bit of a sore arm after the first dose. After the second one, she started developing symptoms about eleven hours later. She got the shot about 8:30AM and started showing symptoms about 7:30 that evening. She had a low grade fever (99.7) throughout the night and terrible body aches. Next morning, add neck pain and a terrible headache. She said about Noon time, it was almost like somebody flipped a switch and she started feeling much better.

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Wife and I have not been tested for antibodies, but the wife and I both have lost our sense of smell and most of our sense of taste for a couple weeks before taking the vaccine. We still haven't recovered either.
Wife suffered zero response but a one day sore arm. My reaction was much more severe as listed.
Not looking forward to the second dose.

 

[ignerntbend]

@_CY_, you're sick. You suffer from an illness. It isn't your fault. No one's blaming you and you shouldn't blame yourself.
You need help. I'm going to start another thread and we'll start a collection. We'll send you to a place where you can get better. You can get better, but you have to want to get better, and you have to try.

 

[_CY_]

@_CY_, you're sick. You suffer from an illness. It isn't your fault. No one's blaming you and you shouldn't blame yourself.
You need help. I'm going to start another thread and we'll start a collection. We'll send you to a place where you can get better. You can get better, but you have to want to get better, and you have to try.

can't attack the message, so attack the messenger ... ha ha ha
still waiting for ya to come up with anything of substance ... ha ha ha

 

[okcBob]

yes please do provide grad level doc's .. preferably doc's that's been peer reviewed by well known organizations like Nature, BMJ, New England Journal of Medicine, etc. etc.

sorry articles from forbes and CDC doesn't do it for me.
articles from CDC are sooo slanted it's on auto reject.
perhaps that's a bit harsh on CDC, but they have earned it.

Lol, the science articles suggestion was meant for you to review, I’m not your teacher. If you have access to a university library as a student or teacher, they are easy to find. But ok, this is against my better judgement, but I will provide a peer reviewed article about mRNA & how it doesn’t change your dna. From Your well known organization of Nature. Look in The safety sentences regarding the topic. Hope you can get thru it.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243

Also an article from Harvard Medical school that dispels the myth. If you scroll to the bottom, the list of scientist contributors is substantial. This may help if you have problems with the Nature citation.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/coronavirus-resource-center

Lastly, I’m done doing research for any more antivaxxers. I’ll just call crazy stuff crazy. It’s tedious to argue over obvious fake claims. After this one, I’m sure there will be another one just as crazy.

 

[_CY_]

Lol, the science articles suggestion was meant for you to review, I’m not your teacher. If you have access to a university library as a student or teacher, they are easy to find. But ok, this is against my better judgement, but I will provide a peer reviewed article about mRNA & how it doesn’t change your dna. From Your well known organization of Nature. Look in The safety sentences regarding the topic. Hope you can get thru it.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243

Also an article from Harvard Medical school that dispels the myth. If you scroll to the bottom, the list of scientist contributors is substantial. This may help if you have problems with the Nature citation.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/coronavirus-resource-center

Lastly, I’m done doing research for any more antivaxxers. I’ll just call crazy stuff crazy. It’s tedious to argue over obvious fake claims. After this one, I’m sure there will be another one just as crazy.

you need to get over yourself .. nature article provides a overview of advances of new mRNA overcoming instability and inefficient in vivo delivery of mRNA, etc. etc. but makes no mention of the topic YOU started. which is mRNA doesn't effect a person's DNA. please note I only read about 30 pages and found nothing remotely related to what you claimed and decided right or wrong. you didn't read the article before posting link. please provide page number for said data if I'm wrong.

same for second article .. more general data points for new mRNA "vaccines" no mention of what you claimed.

I merely asked that YOU provide actual evidence of what you claim.
no actual evidence = BS so far I've not seen anything remotely close to supporting what your claim.

 

[okcBob]

I didn’t start this topic, just called it crazy when someone posted it. The corona vaccine does not alter our dna. It just doesn’t, no matter what the crazies claim.

The 1st supports the understanding that mRNA vaccines do not alter dna. If you can’t comprehend it, that’s on you. The second article specifically refutes the antivaxxer claim that the corona virus does not alter our dna-which is what everyone knows, except the tin hat crowd. I’m not gonna waste my time searching for articles that you can understand. I only spent a few min searching, but based on the amount of time you spend on this subject is revealing. I’d suggest psych help. We don’t need to provide any additional support for this subject in order to make you look foolish. You’ve done a good job on that front. Carry on

 

[_CY_]

Now let's drill in what does worry me about new mRNA "vaccine"
what used to be called “immune enhancement” and now they call it “antibody dependent enhancement” (ADE).

We have never made it through an animal study successfully for this type of virus. We have never done this in humans before…

with new mRNA "vaccines" less than a year old. it's impossible to have enough time to test for reactions in animals. which may or may not happen in the next year(s)? resulting in anaphylaxis?

The studies are far too brief in duration to allow a realistic estimation of side effects. Depending on what those effects end up being, millions of people may be exposed to unacceptable risk in return for a very minor benefit.

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watch this video by Dr. Lee Merrit

In the following interview, Dr. Lee Merritt explains that mRNA technology is not a vaccine.

former president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) Dr. Lee Merritt

 

[JD8]

you need to get over yourself .. nature article provides a overview of advances of new mRNA overcoming instability and inefficient in vivo delivery of mRNA, etc. etc. but makes no mention of the topic YOU started. which is mRNA doesn't effect a person's DNA. please note I only read about 30 pages and found nothing remotely related to what you claimed and decided right or wrong. you didn't read the article before posting link. please provide page number for said data if I'm wrong.

same for second article .. more general data points for new mRNA "vaccines" no mention of what you claimed.

I merely asked that YOU provide actual evidence of what you claim.
no actual evidence = BS so far I've not seen anything remotely close to supporting what your claim.

Articles that describe mRNA production, transmission across membranes, uptake etc. Not sure if you're being obtuse, or basically you just can't google search/spam your way out of a critical thinking discussion.



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[JD8]

Now let's drill in what does worry me about new mRNA "vaccine"
what used to be called “immune enhancement” and now they call it “antibody dependent enhancement” (ADE).

We have never made it through an animal study successfully for this type of virus. We have never done this in humans before…

with new mRNA "vaccines" less than a year old. it's impossible to have enough time to test for reactions in animals. which may or may not happen in the next year(s)? resulting in anaphylaxis?

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watch this video by Dr. Lee Merrit

In the following interview, Dr. Lee Merritt explains that mRNA technology is not a vaccine, mirroring what Dr. David Martin also stated recently.

Brother, you won't admit this..... but you're dead wrong. You're obviously educated by a google search and it shows.

Animal studies...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7449230/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7458800/


These are starters.... if you reference google scholar with mRNA and animal models you get 2,100,000 hits.

Probably safe to say that notion that they understand the process, HINT: not new to Covid, in animals.

Finally.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccine

Looks like it fits the definition.

 

[okcBob]

you need to get over yourself .. nature article provides a overview of advances of new mRNA overcoming instability and inefficient in vivo delivery of mRNA, etc. etc. but makes no mention of the topic YOU started. which is mRNA doesn't effect a person's DNA. please note I only read about 30 pages and found nothing remotely related to what you claimed and decided right or wrong. you didn't read the article before posting link. please provide page number for said data if I'm wrong.

same for second article .. more general data points for new mRNA "vaccines" no mention of what you claimed.

I merely asked that YOU provide actual evidence of what you claim.
no actual evidence = BS so far I've not seen anything remotely close to supporting what your claim.

Get over myself? I’m nobody special-just ask my wife....
I’m not a physician or a scientist. Never claimed to be. I’m just someone who can read a scientific academic journal- been subscribing to & reading them for 40 yrs due to my job.
The covid vaccine doesn’t alter your dna. It just doesn’t. You may not believe it, but that was the antivaxxer claim that I called wrong. Nobody cares if you don’t believe it, but serious people won’t give you any credibility.