Oklahoma Execution Botched

[RidgeHunter]

Ha! I can't remember who it was, but I offended someone on here with a "your momma" comment.

People are hypersensitive. I may get riled up about idiots, but I don't get offended by jokes.

I was just kidding about my momma being executed anyways. They put the IV in 3 years ago but she ain't dead yet. Every once in a while she sits up and says "somethings wrong", or "my whole body is burning", but we just close the curtain, suck off our bodyguards, and give a news conference while trying to ignore our ***** daughter's ****** electronica band.

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

People are hypersensitive. I may get riled up about idiots, but I don't get offended by jokes.

Idiots need love too.

 

[CHenry]

Idiots need love too.

You asking for some?

Sent from outer space or somewhere from my mobile device

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

You asking for some?

Sent from outer space or somewhere from my mobile device

No. I got some from your mom on my lunch break.

 

[Erick]

From News 9:

Remembering Stephanie Neiman: Oklahoma Murder Victim's Tragic Story

PERRY, Oklahoma - The teenager whose murder led to a controversial execution on Tuesday was known for her sweetness and her fondness for her pickup truck.
The parents of murder victim Stephanie Neiman have not spoken publicly since the execution of Clayton Derrell Lockett went awry. But a letter they wrote for Lockett's clemency hearing in February demonstrates what they were feeling leading up to Tuesday night.

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Lockett murdered Neiman on June 3, 1999. Stephanie had just graduated from Perry High School, where she played the saxophone in the band, two weeks earlier.

Neiman and a female friend had stopped to visit another friend named Bobby Boynt, 23, who was at his Perry home with his 9-month-old son.

Clayton Lockett, 23, his cousin, Alfonzo Lockett, 17 and Shawn Mathis, 26, were already there. While Boynt's baby son slept in another room, they had tied up and were beating Boynt because he owed money to Clayton Lockett.

When Neiman's friend went inside the home they hit her with a shotgun then forced her to call Neiman into the home.

They repeatedly raped Neiman's 18-year-old friend, tied up the two women then used Neiman's truck to take the adults and the baby to a rural part of Kay County. When Neiman refused to give Clayton Lockett the keys to her truck or provide him the alarm code, he ordered Stephanie to kneel while Mathis dug a grave.

Lockett shot her and the gun jammed. While Neiman lay there screaming, the attackers cleared the jam and Lockett shot her a second time. Even though she was still breathing, he ordered the other two attackers to drag her into the grave and bury her.

They threatened to kill Bobby Boynt and Neiman's friend if they went to police, but they did anyway. Perry police arrested the three attackers just three days later.

Alfonzo Lockett and Shawn Mathis are each serving life terms for their parts in the crime.

On February 28, 2014, the Oklahoma Attorney General's office presented a packet of information at a clemency hearing for Clayton Lockett. The packet contains details of the case, as well as the results of Lockett's appeals to that point.

It details his long criminal history and the punishment he's received for making threats and misbehaving since being convicted of the murder, including throwing urine and feces at the corrections officers bringing him food.

It also contains heartwrenching victim impact statements from Boynt, Neiman's friend and fellow victim, Neiman's parents and law enforcement officers involved in the case.

Writing on behalf of her husband, Steven, Susie Neiman said that the last 15 years have been "HELL."

Read Susie Neiman's Victim Impact Statement.

"Every day we are left with horrific images of what the last hours of Stephanie's life was like. Did she cry out for us to help her? We are left with the knowledge that she needed us and we were not aware of it therefore unable [to] help her."

"We go through the motions of living, we eat, we sleep, Steve goes to work and comes home again. We do what we have to do to make it through the day and we start all over again the next. We exist," she wrote.

"We were left with an empty home full of memories and the deafening silence of the lack of life within it's [sic] walls. We have moved, but in our new home Stephanie also has a bedroom which is filled with her treasures and belongings."

She also writes that she and her husband will never know the joy of grandchildren because Stephanie was an only child.

"Clayton Lockett made choices on June 3, 1999. Actions have consequences. It is time that he face the full consequences of murdering our daughter Stephanie. She deserves that. A jury decided Clayton Lockett's fate and we believe it is time for justice to finally be carried out."

 

[Johnjosiah]

I thought I had kept up with this thread pretty well, but maybe not.

Ridge, when did the state torture someone to death? I don't consider last nights undertakings torture. A good nurse can make an IV essential painless. I have yet to have anyone complain about normal doses of versed dude was probably in a pleasant dream state after first 5-10mg or so.

I don't agree with you on this issue but you have made an excellent overall argument.

 

[CHenry]

No. I got some from your mom on my lunch break.

HA

Sent from outer space or somewhere from my mobile device

 

[RidgeHunter]

I thought I had kept up with this thread pretty well, but maybe not.

Ridge, when did the state torture someone to death? I don't consider last nights undertakings torture. A good nurse can make an IV essential painless. I have yet to have anyone complain about normal doses of versed dude was probably in a pleasant dream state after first 5-10mg or so.

I don't agree with you on this issue but you have made an excellent overall argument.

If it was you on that gourney, you might have a different opinion on torture if you were still awake talking halfway through the process. You know it took 43 minutes for him to die, right? Most deer I've shot with a bow take 1-2 minutes. A couple kept eating acorns after a double lung and just fell over.

 

[Erick]

If it was you on that gourney, you might have a different opinion on torture if you were still awake talking halfway through the process. You know it took 43 minutes for him to die, right? Most deer I've shot with a bow take 1-2 minutes. A couple kept eating acorns after a double lung and just fell over.

By definition, it's not torture unless they purposely did this. There needs to be consequences for this misfortunate mistake.

 

[Johnjosiah]

43 min is likely a rather arbitrary number. If they tried to save him then they likely did CPR and thus 43 min would include this time until they deemed CPR futile. Versed works well intravenous, intramuscular, intranasal and about another way it can enter the blood stream. Thus, "blown" IV or not he received the medication.

I consider torture to me an wake and aware event. Now if you want to argue that he was tortured by being placed on death row and going through multiple appeals and stays of execution and such then I can fathom that. I can buy everything up to the process being mentally difficult and thereby could be considered torture. But, the process just does not meet my definition of torture.