Oklahoma waterfowl guides busted for baiting

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I listened to this pod cast this morning. I guess there has been a few but the one that really got the subject going happened just recently. I’m just curious if anyone has heard anything. I’m not going to mention the guide that just got busted. I’ll see what you guys have to say and what you e heard. Some language.
 

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Perry group was investigated for over a year, Canada to Oklahoma. The El Reno bunch 2x now iirc. The fines must be too cheap lol. Everyone is a waterfowl guide in Oklahoma now......then during the off season they are turkey guides......then dove guides....then deer guides. As much as I hate government oversight, ODWC should have done something with guide licensing/registration etc. a long time ago.
 

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Perry group was investigated for over a year, Canada to Oklahoma. The El Reno bunch 2x now iirc. The fines must be too cheap lol. Everyone is a waterfowl guide in Oklahoma now......then during the off season they are turkey guides......then dove guides....then deer guides. As much as I hate government oversight, ODWC should have done something with guide licensing/registration etc. a long time ago.
I had heard they were under watch even longer
 

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Some clients had guns and stuff confiscated. The question becomes, if they had no knowledge, should they have their stuff taken.
Some of these young guides are only told to show up at a field or pond with the clients. They may not have a clue what has been done to ‘prep’ a hunt.
My son used to do some overflow hunts for a guide service. He would have zero knowledge of what had been done.
 

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I have a friend in another state that owns 150+ acres with a nice duck pond on it. Last month he found out from his neighbor that people have been hunting on the pond during the week days. He called the warden and they busted a guy guiding on his property during the week when the owner would obviously being working in the city.

What is crazy is the guide parked at the gate and they all climbed the fence because "he forgot the key". The really crazy part is the guy who was "guiding" was actually the son of another friend of the owner. Talk about f-ed up and I am sure their is now strain in that relationship.

Some people are just slime.
 

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I’ve said it before. None of this is going to stop until people quit booking with these guides. I’d wager that most of the clients don’t even care what the kind of illegal activity the guide is doing as long as they kill something and don’t get busted themselves.

My opinion won’t be a popular one, but if the landowner is held liable for illegal activity on their land, they’d be a lot more selective on who they let hunt their places.
 

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I’ve said it before. None of this is going to stop until people quit booking with these guides. I’d wager that most of the clients don’t even care what the kind of illegal activity the guide is doing as long as they kill something and don’t get busted themselves.

My opinion won’t be a popular one, but if the landowner is held liable for illegal activity on their land, they’d be a lot more selective on who they let hunt their places.

The big guide here spends tens if not hundreds of thousands in lease fees. They are corporate backed and 99% of their clients are corperate execs from across the country and not local. It would take 5 or 6 digit fines, loss of license or OK privileges or all three to sting them.
 

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I’ve said it before. None of this is going to stop until people quit booking with these guides. I’d wager that most of the clients don’t even care what the kind of illegal activity the guide is doing as long as they kill something and don’t get busted themselves.

My opinion won’t be a popular one, but if the landowner is held liable for illegal activity on their land, they’d be a lot more selective on who they let hunt their places.
It’s popular with me.
 


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