Oklahoma waterfowl guides busted for baiting

[OkieMoe]

The guide that was using two of my leased peanut farms wont be using them ever again. I walked up a few weeks ago and that guy must of had twenty damn hunters on my land.

 

[OkieMoe]

I’ve said it before. None of this is going to stop until people quit booking with these guides. I’d wager that most of the clients don’t even care what the kind of illegal activity the guide is doing as long as they kill something and don’t get busted themselves.

My opinion won’t be a popular one, but if the landowner is held liable for illegal activity on their land, they’d be a lot more selective on who they let hunt their places.

Yeah its called NONE. The farmer whom leased my land had sublet to this guide @ 4000 a season. I had that crap stopped immediately and since the lease was up, I had it added "just to make sure its clear" Land owner owns ALL hunting rights. I have a Vietnam vet who lives on a corver plot whom had a deal my my uncle to be the only hunter and he keeps meth cookers and others away. And thats fine with me. He only hunts deer. and has a nice little setup IF I ever deer hunt again i'll hunt with him!

 

[OkieMoe]

And i'll dust those old crow guns off and set them up to chase birds away.


The ONLY way I found out about this guide was my sister inlaw and brother have land a mile away and her cousin was intown and wanted a goose spot closer to ft cobb lake and SHE asked me if they could hunt it. thinking nobody whould be on it i said sure. They show up and find a gaggle of hunter to are mad they are there. They say WE have landowner permission. Guide says I have the leased guys permission because HE paid him 4k! The guys I gave permission to didnt back down and just hunted another area. its 160 acres on both sides of a gravel road aka 320 acres

 

[retrieverman]

The big guide here spends tens if not hundreds of thousands in lease fees. They are corporate backed and 99% of their clients are corperate execs from across the country and not local. It would take 5 or 6 digit fines, loss of license or OK privileges or all three to sting them.

Ok, let’s do it.

 

[kwaynem]

And your worried about me shooting a six point

 

[ElkStalkR]

My opinion won’t be a popular one, but if the landowner is held liable for illegal activity on their land, they’d be a lot more selective on who they let hunt their places.

I’m not totally against this idea on one proviso…they only can be held liable for commercial activity! (Guiding/leasing)

Already too many deterrents to free access. Don’t need another one!

Also have to realize this wouldn’t stop guiding from happening but would make it more expensive for the hunters as more regulations only ever cost the end user more. BUT if landowners were held liable too they be way more watchful about what was happening.

 

[turkeyrun]

I’ve said it before. None of this is going to stop until people quit booking with these guides. I’d wager that most of the clients don’t even care what the kind of illegal activity the guide is doing as long as they kill something and don’t get busted themselves.

My opinion won’t be a popular one, but if the landowner is held liable for illegal activity on their land, they’d be a lot more selective on who they let hunt their places.

Making land owner liable will shut down ALL hunting. No way a landowner can know everything that hunters are doing without being with them constantly.

 

[retrieverman]

I’m not totally against this idea on one proviso…they only can be held liable for commercial activity! (Guiding/leasing)

Well, that is the topic of this discussion.

 

[trekrok]

Making land owner liable will shut down ALL hunting. No way a landowner can know everything that hunters are doing without being with them constantly.

It would definitely take a huge chunk out of the equation.

Long gone are the days of knocking on a door and asking to shoot a bird.

 

[TedKennedy]

Making land owner liable will shut down ALL hunting. No way a landowner can know everything that hunters are doing without being with them constantly.

No it won't. An intelligently worded contract to lease, and an intelligently crafted bill to address this issue isn't that complicated.

Perhaps a bill that would also address "guides" letting multiple clients take deer week after week could be addressed also.

We passed a high fence place in Texas last week and I saw some African game there. Wife looked up the ranch, read me the details as I drove. It's sickening to be counted in the same group that go shoot "fish in a barrel" and soil the term "hunter".

Very little disgusts me more than unethical hunters and sportsmen. (note I said unethical, not illegal) These clowns do more to put our lifestyle at risk than DC politicians do.