Signs Suggest Walmart to Turn Over Customer 4473 Gun Records to ATF

[rlongnt]

Even if they had a scanned searchable copy of everything I’ve ever bought 90+% of it was legitimately traded/sold to dealers or individuals long ago.

 

[BobbyV]

FFLs have to keep the records for a minimum of 20 years. If they close they're required to turn in the 4473s and bound book.

 

[Aries]

They're not closing though. Do you have to turn them in if you just let your license expire? Does Walmart have to have a license for every store?

 

[BobbyV]

They're not closing though. Do you have to turn them in if you just let your license expire? Does Walmart have to have a license for every store?

As I understand it if you don't renew (i.e. close FFL business) you have to turn everything in . . . address on license must match location of transaction. So each Walmart location that sells guns should have it's on FFL.

 

[Preacherman]

Look at how all you guys are talking about the law and what they have to do. The first thing that came to my mind is that it is time to start checking the local walmart for clearance prices on their firearms. This however is not an admission that I believe in or own any fire arms.

 

[harley128]

As I understand it if you don't renew (i.e. close FFL business) you have to turn everything in . . . address on license must match location of transaction. So each Walmart location that sells guns should have it's on FFL.

correct

 

[jfssms]

And how local many dealers have gone under and had to do the same? Walmart complies with the law and now it’s a problem?

I’m no fan of Walmart but that’s how it’s always been done.

not always but whatever.

 

[dennishoddy]

As I understand it if you don't renew (i.e. close FFL business) you have to turn everything in . . . address on license must match location of transaction. So each Walmart location that sells guns should have it's on FFL.

So that creates a defacto gun registration.

 

[BobbyV]

So that creates a defacto gun registration.

If the FBI/ATF takes the time to go through all of the paper copies and create something . . . . I'm sure there have been cases where they've done just that.

 

[TheDoubleD]

In the Mid 90's Treasury Under Secretary for Enforcement Ronald Noble started a project to digitize all archived 4473's. When that program was exposed he was encouraged to work elsewhere. At that time 25 years ago the law specifically prohibited copying in any form those records. Also at the time there was a question if ATF could even keep the records beyond 20 years. FFL holders were allowed by law after 20 years to destroy the forms. It was thought that ATF could do the same.

Noble left Treasury and went to Interpol and the whole matter moved out the spotlight.

Wonder if that law has been changed?