Simple Question. Will you vote for Trump?

[Rooster1971]

How?

Will he snap his fingers or wave his wand?

He will click his heels together and "Make America Great Again".
Change And Hope!

 

[YukonGlocker]

I'm still hung up on the massive amount of winning we're going to do. What the fu!ck are we planning to win?

 

[Hobbes]

Here's the truth...

A bunch of people here whine about tyranny when all they really want is a different tyrant.

 

[dennishoddy]

Here's the truth...

A bunch of people here whine about tyranny when all they really want is a different tyrant.

That's a really intelligent statement. Care to expound on how you came by it?

 

[dennishoddy]

I'm still hung up on the massive amount of winning we're going to do. What the fu!ck are we planning to win?

Possibly less than the 90% tax that sanders proposed. His campaign has backed off of that somewhat, but he wants us to be like cuba. All poor.

 

[YukonGlocker]

Possibly less than the 90% tax that sanders proposed. His campaign has backed off of that somewhat, but he wants us to be like cuba. All poor.

He hasn't proposed any 90% tax. His plans, including all relevant taxes, are clearly laid out (unlike any other candidate). Is this a joke, or do you have a link to it?

I've heard Bernie mention that a former US socialist president (FDR) increased the tax rate to 90%, which is true; but that his (Bernie's) plans didn't involve anything near that, and they don't.

 

[YukonGlocker]

Damnit...hit send too quick...

That still doesn't address the question. Trump is running a campaign platform whose main slogan is "winning". What the fu!ck are we going to win in a Trump presidency?

 

[farmerbyron]

The delusion of "I'm just going to do it." You think Obamas use of EO is bad, wait till this yahoo gets ahold of that office.

Seriously guys, how can you explain this crap with rational thought? The man is full of **** and has no idea what the office of president can and can not do.



http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-60-minutes-scott-pelley/


Donald Trump: That is correct.

Scott Pelley: But, there's a $19 trillion federal debt.

Donald Trump: That's right. We're gonna grow the economy so much--

Scott Pelley: You can't afford to do those things--

Donald Trump: --no, no, but if the economy grows the way it should grow, if I bring jobs back from China, from Japan, from Mexico, from so many countries, everybody's taking our jobs.

Scott Pelley: How do you get 'em back?

Donald Trump: You get 'em back--

Scott Pelley: Those $20 an hour jobs that this country was built on.

Donald Trump: Right. Exactly. You get 'em back by taking them away from other countries. I mean, if you look at China, we have--

Scott Pelley: How does the president do that?

Donald Trump: Well, the president does it by not allowing places like China to devaluate, you know, they devalue their currency, Scott, to such an extent that it's impossible for our companies to compete every time they do that, they suck the blood right out of our country.

Scott Pelley: You're not running for president of China.

Donald Trump: No, I'm running--

Scott Pelley: You're not going to be able to prevent the devaluation of their currency.

Donald Trump: Oh absolutely. Sure you are, sure you are. Look, they don't respect our president. They don't respect our country. They will respect me. They won't be doing it. But here's what we have to do. If they don't come to the table, they're going to have a tax when they put their products into this country. And they're going to behave.

Scott Pelley: So you would tax their--

Donald Trump: I would--

Scott Pelley: --products coming into the United States. You're talking about a trade war.

Donald Trump: I don't want to say tax anything. I'm talking about a fair war. I'm talking about also, I have the smartest people on Wall Street lined up already. They're going to represent us on Japan, on Mexico. Mexico, by the way, is taking our jobs. I love the Mexican people. They're great people. But the leadership is too smart for our country. Ford Motor Company, moving a $2.5 billion plant to Mexico. Mexico--

Scott Pelley: But there's nothing you can do about that as president.

Donald Trump: Sure there is.

Scott Pelley: How do you keep them from exporting American jobs to Mexico?

Donald Trump: Let's say Ford-- let's say Ford moves to Mexico. If they want to sell that car in the United States they pay a tax. Here's what's gonna happen, they're not going to build their plant there. They're going to build it in the United States.

Scott Pelley: But there is a North American Free Trade Agreement.

Donald Trump: And there shouldn't be. It's a disaster.

Scott Pelley: But it is there.

Donald Trump: OK, yeah, but--

Scott Pelley: If you're president, you're going to have to live with it.

Donald Trump: Excuse me, we will either renegotiate it or we will break it. Because, you know, every agreement has an end.

Scott Pelley: You can't just break the law.

Donald Trump: Excuse me, every agreement has an end. Every agreement has to be fair. Every agreement has a defraud clause. We're being defrauded by all these countries.




[video=youtube_share;4FFG1NqKzCg]http://youtu.be/4FFG1NqKzCg[/video]

 

[YukonGlocker]

The delusion of "I'm just going to do it." You think Obamas use of EO is bad, wait till this yahoo gets ahold of that office.

Seriously guys, how can you explain this crap with rational thought? The man is full of **** and has no idea what the office of president can and can not do.



http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-60-minutes-scott-pelley/


Donald Trump: That is correct.

Scott Pelley: But, there's a $19 trillion federal debt.

Donald Trump: That's right. We're gonna grow the economy so much--

Scott Pelley: You can't afford to do those things--

Donald Trump: --no, no, but if the economy grows the way it should grow, if I bring jobs back from China, from Japan, from Mexico, from so many countries, everybody's taking our jobs.

Scott Pelley: How do you get 'em back?

Donald Trump: You get 'em back--

Scott Pelley: Those $20 an hour jobs that this country was built on.

Donald Trump: Right. Exactly. You get 'em back by taking them away from other countries. I mean, if you look at China, we have--

Scott Pelley: How does the president do that?

Donald Trump: Well, the president does it by not allowing places like China to devaluate, you know, they devalue their currency, Scott, to such an extent that it's impossible for our companies to compete every time they do that, they suck the blood right out of our country.

Scott Pelley: You're not running for president of China.

Donald Trump: No, I'm running--

Scott Pelley: You're not going to be able to prevent the devaluation of their currency.

Donald Trump: Oh absolutely. Sure you are, sure you are. Look, they don't respect our president. They don't respect our country. They will respect me. They won't be doing it. But here's what we have to do. If they don't come to the table, they're going to have a tax when they put their products into this country. And they're going to behave.

Scott Pelley: So you would tax their--

Donald Trump: I would--

Scott Pelley: --products coming into the United States. You're talking about a trade war.

Donald Trump: I don't want to say tax anything. I'm talking about a fair war. I'm talking about also, I have the smartest people on Wall Street lined up already. They're going to represent us on Japan, on Mexico. Mexico, by the way, is taking our jobs. I love the Mexican people. They're great people. But the leadership is too smart for our country. Ford Motor Company, moving a $2.5 billion plant to Mexico. Mexico--

Scott Pelley: But there's nothing you can do about that as president.

Donald Trump: Sure there is.

Scott Pelley: How do you keep them from exporting American jobs to Mexico?

Donald Trump: Let's say Ford-- let's say Ford moves to Mexico. If they want to sell that car in the United States they pay a tax. Here's what's gonna happen, they're not going to build their plant there. They're going to build it in the United States.

Scott Pelley: But there is a North American Free Trade Agreement.

Donald Trump: And there shouldn't be. It's a disaster.

Scott Pelley: But it is there.

Donald Trump: OK, yeah, but--

Scott Pelley: If you're president, you're going to have to live with it.

Donald Trump: Excuse me, we will either renegotiate it or we will break it. Because, you know, every agreement has an end.

Scott Pelley: You can't just break the law.

Donald Trump: Excuse me, every agreement has an end. Every agreement has to be fair. Every agreement has a defraud clause. We're being defrauded by all these countries.

lmfao

 

[farmerbyron]

NAFTA won't exist if he has any say about it. Been kind of a failure anyway in some areas. The manufacturing company I worked for 20 years ago lost a contract to build the huge motor housings used in building the dump trucks used in strip pit mining. It went to Mexico for a year, and due to quality control issues, it came back to our plant in Ponca City at a higher cost than before mexico got it. We made good money from that.

5 years before that, the manufacturing company that I worked for got a contract to build drill bits for PIMA, the Mexican government sponsored oil company. We had to build a plant in Mexico City, and send machinery there to build drill bits because the Mexican government had a protectionist tarrif that prevented drill bits from being manufactured anywhere other than within Mexico. I spent lots of time there training their folks in how to maintain the CNC machinery.
Didn't take but a couple of years of failed quality to make the Mexican government decide to have their drill bits built in Ponca City again.

So yes, we have lost a lot of manufacturing in this town to NAFTA, and got some back. NAFTA will go.

What's he going to do? Issue an Executive Order removing us from NAFTA? That's going to have to go through congress. Trump seemingly has no clue how our govt actually works.