Smith & Wesson Top Break Russian 44 1880? need Gunsmith

[Mack45]

1st model .44 double action. Most likely .44 S&W American.

 

[O4L]

From my understanding if it is .44 Russian the cylinder bore will have a distinct step in it. If it is .44 American it will have a straight bore.

 

[BlindOne]

That’s not a Schofield, and I don’t believe it’s a Russian. OP, is it a double action? You might try over on the SASS forum for leads regarding a gunsmith who knows those top breaks.

It’s double action Only, it has a ledge that could be for single action but when you pull hammer back to the ledge it Doesn’t stay. I think it’s a S&W double action first model. The Ammo I have for it is Russian 44 and it fits it. I was told it is Russian 44 by the guy I bought the side plate and hammer stud from and those parts were for S&W first model. They fit without any fitting modifications.

 

[BlindOne]

From my understanding if it is .44 Russian the cylinder bore will have a distinct step in it. If it is .44 American it will have a straight bore.View attachment 170386

Thanks for the info. I checked and it does have the step so it must be Russian 44.

 

[BlindOne]

You might take it to the Shawnee gun show this weekend. This is a collectors show, there are al sorts of those type of revolvers and people who know how to fix them.

I may do that , thanks for the info.

 

[BlindOne]

I always thought the term Schofield was referring to the type of revolver, not the chambering. So, I'm guessing the Schofield is not chamberd in .44 Russian?

I’m not sure myself. I just say Russian 44 because that’s what it’s supposed to be chambered for. I thought Schofield was another brand of manufacturer.

 

[BlindOne]

It is the S&W Double Action first model. According to my old Flayderman's Guide to antique American firearms 3rd edition. Most were in 44 Russian but a few were 38-40 or 44-40.

Thanks for the info.

 

[ssgrock3]

Cutting edge in OKC is who I would call. Masters of their craft. True gunsmiths

 

[Seadog]

I always thought the term Schofield was referring to the type of revolver, not the chambering. So, I'm guessing the Schofield is not chamberd in .44 Russian?

The Skofield is the Schofield like a Smith and Wesson is a Smith and Wesson. The Schofield had its own unique 45 cartridge that the army ended up dropping. I forget which one was which but it’s kind of like a 38 in 357. Basically one of the cartridges was a tad longer. So one cartridge could be used in both but the other cartridge couldn’t.

 

[BlindOne]

Cutting edge in OKC is who I would call. Masters of their craft. True gunsmiths

Thanks, I’ll give them a call