Syria about to get real ugly

[Glocktogo]

Sorry I tried. A lack of high school diploma kept me out. By the time I got a GED I was married with kids. I was a wayward child on my own since 14. Trust me I wanted to go. My dad who I talked to occasionally told me I wouldn't like it and I regretted listening to him ever since.

I get that and perhaps I'm being a bit harsh here. It does happen a lot though that people in general and political talking heads in particular get all up in arms about what's happening in other countries and want to go play the police. A great number of them are people who wouldn't even consider putting on a uniform and jumping into the fray. As a "double volunteer", I used to think along the same lines. After a lot of research and reflection, I think we need to be a little more circumspect as to how we use our troops and what we ask them to lay down their lives for.

 

[milsurp2.0]

I get that and perhaps I'm being a bit harsh here. It does happen a lot though that people in general and political talking heads in particular get all up in arms about what's happening in other countries and want to go play the police. A great number of them are people who wouldn't even consider putting on a uniform and jumping into the fray. As a "double volunteer", I used to think along the same lines. After a lot of research and reflection, I think we need to be a little more circumspect as to how we use our troops and what we ask them to lay down their lives for.

I understand. What I mean by policing is just being a presence with a carrier not sending troops in. If any troops go in it needs to be a U.N. joint venture instead of all U.S. troops with 25 Belgian cooks.

 

[OliverKlohzoff]

Assad came out today and said NO, We will never use chemical weapons, it would be our own suicide. He's right.

What is much more likely to happen is that the CIA/NWO/Al Ciada rebels will create a false flag chemical weapons attack to create a reason for American's to get on board with a new war and for American sheeple to start screaming "glass parking lot that place".

You've got the fiscal cliff coming up where the military/defense budget is going to get whacked. No way in hell with they let that happen. If the "fiscal cliff" cuts are triggered, I can see some kind of false flag attack on American soil this year to get the sheeple worked up into demanding "MORE MILITARY, MORE DEFENSE !!!".

Truth is that if our military/defense spending got cut by 1/3, our budget problems would be solved. The powers that be will never let that happen.

 

[Hobbes]

Iraq?

They (Iraq) did, they first gassed the Kurds to make sure it worked and then they trucked the crap into Syria, which is why it was never found in Iraq and is why the nerve gas mixologist are busy right now.

NO WAY that Saddam(a Sunni) would give his WMD to the Alawites(members of Shia that he oppressed and murdered for decades).
More likely is that the Syrian chemical agents came from Iran, which is mostly Shia.

 

[WTJ]

NO WAY that Saddam(a Sunni) would give his WMD to the Alawites(members of Shia that he oppressed and murdered for decades).
More likely is that the Syrian chemical agents came from Iran, which is mostly Shia.

Noooooo, he would NEVER move that stuff to Syria to cover his a$$ because he was such a staunch practitioner of the Muslim religion. YEAH, that's it.

 

[Hobbes]

Noooooo, he would NEVER move that stuff to Syria to cover his a$$ because he was such a staunch practitioner of the Muslim religion. YEAH, that's it.

You really don't know much about the enmity between Shia and Sunni, do you?

 

[Shadowrider]

NO WAY that Saddam(a Sunni) would give his WMD to the Alawites(members of Shia that he oppressed and murdered for decades).
More likely is that the Syrian chemical agents came from Iran, which is mostly Shia.

This article has multiple people in multiple countries that disagree with your assessment.

In 2006, former Iraqi general Georges Sada, second in command of the Iraqi Air Force who served under Saddam Hussein before he defected, wrote a comprehensive book, "Saddam's Secrets."
It details how the Iraqi Revolutionary Guard moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria in advance of the U.S.-led action to eliminate Hussein's WMD threat.

Both Israeli and U.S. intelligence observed large truck convoys leaving Iraq and entering Syria in the weeks and months before Operation Iraqi Freedom, John Shaw, former deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, told a private conference of former weapons inspectors and intelligence experts held in Arlington, Va., in 2006.
According to Shaw, ex-Russian intelligence chief Yevgeni Primakov, a KGB general with long-standing ties to Saddam, went to Iraq in December 2002 and stayed until just before the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.
Anticipating the invasion, his job was to supervise the removal of such weapons and erase as much evidence of Russian involvement as possible.
The Russian-assisted "cleanup" operation was entrusted to a combination of GRU and Spetsnaz troops and Russian military and civilian personnel in Iraq "under the command of two experienced ex-Soviet generals, Colonel-General Vladislav Achalov and Colonel-General Igor Maltsev, both retired and posing as civilian commercial consultants."
Washington Times reporter Bill Gertz reported on Oct. 30, 2004, that Achalov and Maltsev had been photographed receiving medals from Iraqi Defense Minister Sultan Hashim Ahmad in a Baghdad building bombed by U.S. cruise missiles during the first U.S. air raids in early March 2003. Apparently they did their job well.

Full article here

 

[WTJ]

You really don't know much about the enmity between Shia and Sunni, do you?

Yeah, actually I do, but SH was an equal opportunity secular omnicidal despot who was much more friendly with the Syrians than the Iraqis.

 

[Hobbes]

Yeah, actually I do, but SH was an equal opportunity secular omnicidal despot who was much more friendly with the Syrians than the Iraqis.

Syria supported Iran in the Iraq/Iran war that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.
I don't think Saddam was stupid enough to give WMD to his enemies.

 

[WTJ]

Syria supported Iran in the Iraq/Iran war that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.
I don't think Saddam was stupid enough to give WMD to his enemies.

Uhhhh, OK.