The Mid-Term Election thread

[n2sooners]

Really got your panties in a wad don't you? You should watch that as it might cut off circulation to the other one.

Oh and that is Senate Majority Leader McConnell to you.

Mia Love, another candidate I was hoping for won.

http://www.ibtimes.com/first-black-...-love-wins-utah-house-seat-tight-race-1719069

If you wanted to see panties in a wad you should have watched msnbc last night. It was funny and sad at the same time. So much name calling for a so called news channel. And their 'advice' to Senate republicans was even funnier, like Matthews suggesting that what congress should do first is pass amnesty.

 

[dennishoddy]

Sarah Palin made a really good post tonight.



On a side note, most candidates that Palin supported won, most that Hillary support lost.

How could that be Rick?
We keep hearing from libs that she is too dumb.

 

[Lurker66]

It's idiotic to blame someone 2 months into their term, if one understands the basics of economics, in which most that lean to the left don't by my experiences. Lots of fairy tales out there, but the Clinton Boom is one of the better ones.

Also, there is affordable housing.... you just have to be halfway responsible and not live beyond your means. The Dems just wanted to buy votes in trying to give people what they couldn't afford.

There is something to be said from living thru the Reagan/Bush Era and then seeing the Clinton era and the aftermath of lil George and Obama. Some have lived it, watched history as it happened and other read it from a book and claim to know.

Lil George Bush and his Congress were/are just as bad as Obama and hid Congress. Both are horribly bad.

Times under Carter/Reagan/Bush were sucky. No housing, recession, no jobs, very low wages, no education, inflation, huge Natl debt......all this all ended under Clinton/Newt. And it all came crashing down under Bush/Pelosi and Obama/Boehner.

No it wasn't a fairytale....

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

Even though I have zero love for the Republican party, the party that I used to love and still am registered as, I hope a Republican wins the White House in two years. The election of Obama was a watershed event in the history of the US, it marked the end of compromise. The two parties have ceased working together. The unprecedented obstructionism of the right has irrecoverably damaged the country (before you fire up the keyboard to shoot off a retort, don't bother, arguing this point would be like arguing the earth is flat). Now, politicians don't go back to their constituents and say, this is what I've done for you, they go back and say, this is what I stopped them from doing to you. With a Republican President, we can at least get something done. Although I have no doubt the Democrats will follow the Republican's example and obstruct the best they can. There is one man that takes most of the blame. Mitch McConnell. A politician that is the antithesis of a true conservative. He's a life-long politician. Despite that he's amassed a net-worth north of $20 million. He divorced his first wife, the mother of his 3 children, to marry a woman, a very, very wealthy woman, 11 years his junior. In 2008, after 44 years of unremarkable public service, and facing the prospect of fading into oblivion, he found his life's calling, obstructionism. He clearly does not care about the country. He clearly only cares about his legacy. And the country will suffer for years because of his ambition.

 

[SlugSlinger]

No matter the reason....it boomed.

You have a very selective memory. It boomed because of the telecom, .com and Internet boom. Then it crashed.

And wth do you think amnesty is going to do to your precious minimum wage? Wages are dropping because there are 10-20% more workers available to do the job. It's all supply and demand based and artificially inflating wages is a temporary response. It doesn't fix anything.

I read an article that stated 70% of the jobs are being filled with immigrants.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

It's idiotic to blame someone 2 months into their term, if one understands the basics of economics, in which most that lean to the left don't by my experiences. Lots of fairy tales out there, but the Clinton Boom is one of the better ones.

Also, there is affordable housing.... you just have to be halfway responsible and not live beyond your means. The Dems just wanted to buy votes in trying to give people what they couldn't afford.

You speak of fairy tales? Here's one for you, the Democrats were solely, or even mostly, to blame for the housing collapse.

"From his earliest days in office, Bush paired his belief that Americans do best when they own their own homes with his conviction that markets do best when left alone. Bush pushed hard to expand home ownership, especially among minority groups, an initiative that dovetailed with both his ambition to expand Republican appeal and the business interests of some of his biggest donors. But his housing policies and hands-off approach to regulation encouraged lax lending standards...And the regulator Bush chose to oversee them - an old school buddy - pronounced the companies sound even as they headed toward insolvency..."There is no question we did not recognize the severity of the problems," said Al Hubbard, Bush's former chief economic adviser, who left the White House in December 2007. "Had we, we would have attacked them."...Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's first chief economic adviser, said there was little impetus to raise alarms about the proliferation of easy credit that was helping Bush meet housing goals."No one wanted to stop that bubble," Lindsay said. "It would have conflicted with the president's own policies."

 

[Lurker66]

You have a very selective memory. It boomed because of the telecom, .com and Internet boom. Then it crashed.

And wth do you think amnesty is going to do to your precious minimum wage? Wages are dropping because there are 10-20% more workers available to do the job. It's all supply and demand based and artificially inflating wages is a temporary response. It doesn't fix anything.

I read an article that stated 70% of the jobs are being filled with immigrants.

You really are full of ****. Is that what you were taught?

Wages are repressed because we are going from a producing/manufactoring economy to a service economy.

Take a recession proof non service, non manufactory g profession such as nursing....there is and has been a shortage of RNs for decades, in fact we import several thousands RNs from overseas yearly.....yet RNs wages haven't increased or grown much at all in past 10 years. In fact many of this year's new RNs are getting paid about the same as a RN with 20 years experience.

It's the same with electricians and plumbers.....wages are being suppressed. The only glut of workers are mainly the unskilled labor or newly certified workers. People who make up the bulk of the workforce. Under Clinton these people worked and earned a real wage.

We haven't seen this kind of wage suppression since Carter/Reagan/Bush.....it got better under Clinton and worse Bush/Obama.

Making citizens out of a bunch of illegals ain't going to effect anyone or wages. Only raising the minimum wage will do that.

 

[SlugSlinger]

All this bs coming from a non-business person, kinda like Obama. You might be good at community organizing, but you failed at that, at least on this site. Obama sucks at the economy, business, etc. you are in the same boat.

You are arguing based on no actual knowledge just opninion. Your opinion is based on pure ignorance and is not based in reality.

You really are full of ****. Is that what you were taught?

Wages are repressed because we are going from a producing/manufactoring economy to a service economy.

Take a recession proof non service, non manufactory g profession such as nursing....there is and has been a shortage of RNs for decades, in fact we import several thousands RNs from overseas yearly.....yet RNs wages haven't increased or grown much at all in past 10 years. In fact many of this year's new RNs are getting paid about the same as a RN with 20 years experience.

It's the same with electricians and plumbers.....wages are being suppressed. The only glut of workers are mainly the unskilled labor or newly certified workers. People who make up the bulk of the workforce. Under Clinton these people worked and earned a real wage.

We haven't seen this kind of wage suppression since Carter/Reagan/Bush.....it got better under Clinton and worse Bush/Obama.

Making citizens out of a bunch of illegals ain't going to effect anyone or wages. Only raising the minimum wage will do that.

 

[Lurker66]

All this bs coming from a non-business person, kinda like Obama. You might be good at community organizing, but you failed at that, at least on this site. Obama sucks at the economy, business, etc. you are in the same boat.

You are arguing based on no actual knowledge just opninion. Your opinion is based on pure ignorance and is not based in reality.

You don't need a degree or a business to make money. There is a reason I'm retired and your not.

 

[SlugSlinger]

You don't need a degree or a business to make money. There is a reason I'm retired and your not.

That's because your wife works and mine doesn't!