The New Green Deal

[chuter]

Kids entering college now were born in 2000. They have no conscious awareness of 911, the fall of the Berlin wall, they get their "news" mostly from tech sites that lean way left, left leaning educational systems, celebrities, and others like themselves.
I'm sure they're ignoring the fall of Venezuela.

They're told by attractive celebrities, Instagram influencers, and the likes of AOC that they can have it all for free.

What kind of people could we expect to come out of a system like that.

 

[SdoubleA]

To go along with post 28..

Hard times create strong men,
Strong men create good times,
Good times create weak men,
Weak men create hard times.



The circle of life, what goes up, must come down.

Unfortunately, in November 2016, I believe that we are in the “weak men create hard times” part of the cycle.

“A nation is born a stoic and dies an epicurean” Will Durant

Strength and success are born out of stoic values.

The Stoics elaborated a detailed taxonomy of virtue, dividing virtue into four main types: wisdom, justice, courage, and moderation. – The Google definition of Stoic Values

To have wisdom, justice, courage and moderation is to be strong where one will defer his or her own happiness and pleasure for virtue.

To the stoics, virtue was more important than happiness in life.

In contrast Epicurean values stem from Epicurus and he believed:

that what he called “pleasure” was the greatest good, but that the way to attain such pleasure was to live modestly, to gain knowledge of the workings of the world, and to limit one’s desires. This would lead one to attain a state of tranquility (ataraxia) and freedom from fear as well as an absence of bodily pain (aponia). The combination of these two states constitutes happiness in its highest form… Epicureanism is a form of hedonism – Source Wikipedia

Where pleasure, personal happiness, limited desire, modest living, knowledge without action, tranquility, absense of bodily pain and hedonism take over, a weak man is born.

As a millenial, I can say that my generation is certainly Epicurean in nature. We are indeed living in a time of weak men who create hard times.

Today’s young man between 20-30 is drowning in pleasure through video games and pornography, he will not have a serious or real relationship with a woman to make a family or bear children until late in life or perhaps ever. Our birth rates are down and costs of living are high, so traditional families are in decline. His personal happiness comes first above all else. He has limited desire and ambition and in effect, must live modestly. He is the most educated that a young man has ever been in history with little action taken to use his education to to reach his potential in life. He has an absense of bodily pain and we now have “safe spaces” and “cry spaces” on campuses to validate our generation’s weak emotional fortitude.

We are living in a time of weak men.

Please clarify the highlighted statement for me.

 

[SMS]

If any of ya'll think this is going away, think again. We laughed at Bernie, his following has only grown. We're laughing at AOC's ignorance, but her following is growing. We laughed at the economic and socialist policies of the EU, but they are still there.

People who buy into this nonsense don't just wake up one day and realize, "Hey, I'm a dumbass, there's no way this stuff will work." Socialist experiments around the globe haven't convinced people... they always think, "We'll be different. We'll be better because our intentions are better." Then when it all starts to crumble, the powergrab only gets worse, eventually it all falls because it's a house of cards.

But that isn't some breakthrough in "wokeness" they simply achieve spontaneuously one day... it only comes through pain and loss, unfortunately. Humans are unfortunately prone to repeating history. And this is what were are seeing...

Exactly. It's as if some folks forgot the we are only a few years removed from Obama, the Democrats led by Pelosi just took the House, and that Trump secured less than half of the vote and only slightly more than half of the eligible population voted.

There is a lot of meat on the table and a lot of folks who actually live and breath this Green Deal crap every day.

Don't fool yourselves into dismissing it all as wacko B.S. and rest on your laurels because The Donald is in the White House.

 

[Glocktogo]

Please clarify the highlighted statement for me.

Seems pretty self explanatory to me. FWIW, I'm not aware of a single time in recorded history where everyone is a pampered fool. We have strong, hard men at the tip of the spear across the globe as we speak. They aren't weak. We also have poor but honest and hard working people who struggle to make ends meet every day. They aren't weak either.

However, our ratio of strong men to weak men is pretty bad right now. History will not speak kindly of this era overall. At least that's my belief.

 

[SdoubleA]

Seems pretty self explanatory to me. FWIW, I'm not aware of a single time in recorded history where everyone is a pampered fool. We have strong, hard men at the tip of the spear across the globe as we speak. They aren't weak. We also have poor but honest and hard working people who struggle to make ends meet every day. They aren't weak either.

However, our ratio of strong men to weak men is pretty bad right now. History will not speak kindly of this era overall. At least that's my belief.

The point I was referring to was the portion I highlighted (bold print). You must have missed that, Unfortunately, in November 2016, I believe that we are in the “weak men create hard times” part of the cycle.

That is what needed clarifying for me, as it seemed to allude to election time and Trump being lumped in with the weak.

I will be the first to admit we have way too many weak here in America. There should be no doubt to that. One major problem we have is way too many weak kids on the playground in government doing their dangest to continually stifle the few strong we have left. We need to deal with that before they set us too far back. What will achieve that???

 

[Glocktogo]

The point I was referring to was the portion I highlighted (bold print). You must have missed that, Unfortunately, in November 2016, I believe that we are in the “weak men create hard times” part of the cycle.

That is what needed clarifying for me, as it seemed to allude to election time and Trump being lumped in with the weak.

I will be the first to admit we have way too many weak here in America. There should be no doubt to that. One major problem we have is way too many weak kids on the playground in government doing their dangest to continually stifle the few strong we have left. We need to deal with that before they set us too far back. What will achieve that???

Well you could make an argument that Trump is among the weak men. He dodged the draft and he's dodged plenty of marriage vows. As an overall supporter, he's no saint. Yet even with all his many, many flaws, I think he's proven to be strong enough to withstand withering fire from his enemies, while posting quite a few wins on the political and economic fronts. I don't think anyone knew in November 2016 just how angry the left was that he won, and just how far they'd go to destroy him. I knew they'd try and I'm continually amazed at just how single minded they've become. I also don't think a lot of people believed he'd be so resolute in repelling his enemies. Many would capitulate under such withering fire.

I just wish he'd stop self-inflicting wounds on himself quite so often.

 

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[Timmy59]

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