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Sanford

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Just to keep the record straight, congress sent a spending bill to the president that didn't include funding for legislation that had been approved by a majority of the previous elected representatives of the people of the United States, many of whom were subsequently voted out of office as a result.

Fixed it for ya.

We could play this all day - the point was that the president was at least as responsible for any "government shutdown" as was congress, arguably more so since congress had provided the necessary funding for the continued operation of the overwhelming majority of government functions. At the end of the day the liberal mantra that "Republicans shut down the government" was and is disingenuous at best, no matter how many times it's been repeated.
 

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Fixed it for ya.

We could play this all day - the point was that the president was at least as responsible for any "government shutdown" as was congress, arguably more so since congress had provided the necessary funding for the continued operation of the overwhelming majority of government functions. At the end of the day the liberal mantra that "Republicans shut down the government" was and is disingenuous at best, no matter how many times it's been repeated.

The liberal mantra? Hardly. The majority of Republicans blame Ted Cruz. It's not the left that blames Ted, it's pretty much everyone, including Ted himself, that blames Ted. Of course in Ted's mind, his shutting down the government was a good thing.

From USA Today.
Republicans began a new week pointing fingers at each other Sunday following a 16-day government shutdown and near-default that left the nation worse off and the GOP taking most of the blame...That left Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who instigated the government crisis by demanding an end to Obamacare and getting the Tea Party faction among House Republicans to go along, in a somewhat lonely position — at least in the nation's capital.

From The Washington Post.
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) needs to stop defending the disastrous 2013 shutdown. The stunt he inspired was, for all but the Kool-Aid drinkers, a low point in recent Republican history.

From Forbes, a very right leaning magazine.
The government “shutdown” properly should be called “the Cruz Crisis.” Ted Cruz has made himself the point man for the whole, melodramatic, government “shutdown.” It is part of his high stakes play for the presidency driven by, those who know him say, an admixture of ambition and idealism.

From The American Spectator, a very, very right-wing magazine.
Ted Cruz Wins: The Shutdown Worked

It's kind of hard to believe that there is anyone left that doesn't accept the fact that Ted Cruz orchestrated the shutdown, and the blame for the shutdown lays at his feet.
 

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So Cruz is a member of the legislature. Said legislature passes funding bill. Obama said he would veto it. It's Cruz's fault for Obama being obtuse. Got it...

I said it was hard to believe there was anyone left that didn't understand that Cruz was responsible for the shutdown. But, as you proved, there's always one.
 

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It's kind of hard to believe that there is anyone left that doesn't accept the fact that Ted Cruz orchestrated the shutdown, and the blame for the shutdown lays at his feet.

It's even harder to believe that Obama's cheerleaders still refuse to acknowledge the fact that all he had to do was sign the legislation sent to him to avoid the so-called "shutdown".
 

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