Walmart raises guns and ammunition purchase age to 21

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We're talking about the Constitution and the bill of rights here.

Yes friend we are talking about that exactly. Look around, there are many that don't give a damn about our Constitution or the Bill of Rights. These are also the people that don't believe you have a God given right to protect and defend yourself. These people (Them) come from all walks of life and different political parties but they have one goal, to take your guns no matter what it takes. It is these people that will try to take away your rights and they will do anything they have to.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Preamble to the Declaration of Independence
 
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We're talking about the Constitution and the bill of rights here.
You're precisely correct; we're talking about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. "Congress shall make no law," etc. The Constitution and its amendments define and constrain the government, not private actors. Wal*Mart is free to say it'll only sell guns to left-handed people born on the third Tuesday after the winter solstice if it wants. No protected class is implicated here (in most jurisdictions), so there's nothing against statute, and certainly nothing implicating a Constitutional protection.
 
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This is more like what I intended to come out, I just don't know how to decipher who has common sense and who does not... I personally think they should leave it alone, and concentrate on starting to fix things where they really need fixed. Parents should start disciplining as we were, Schools should discipline as we were. Stop letting the liberals run the world, and bowing down to their every command. Compare this nation, or at least Oklahoma, from 40 years ago (even 30 years ago) to now. Our children's children have no shot, the world is screwed if things don't change drastically and quickly. We know it won't, so all I can hope for is that I'm not around much longer...haha.

The difference in your comparison of 30-40 years ago to now is that the legal system won't let teachers paddle the kids nor discipline them without suffering loss of jobs and possible jail time.
We have the Promise Program in effect in the county where the latest school shooting took place.
They cannot call leo for the following offenses and must handle them within the school disciplinary process where offenders are not allowed to carry backpacks, and have to attend classes at an alternate site among other really bad punishments that are sure to correct the thug mentality of those committing those crimes.
But it sure makes the crime rate look good!!

Alcohol related incidents
Assault/threat
Bullying
Disruption on campus
Drug-use/possession
Drug paraphernalia-possession
False accusation against school staff
Fighting/mutual combat
Harassment
Theft
Trespassing
Vandalism/damage to property

Some of these are felonies if committed in the general public, yet are allowed to happen in Broward County schools and other schools across the nation with minimal repercussion.
Example: You can beat the tar out of someone that is half your size, take his drugs, tell the school staff that a teacher wanted those drugs and you did it for them, while breaking out a window to escape with the punishment being you had to go to a classroom with other thugs that were looking for the same street creds.
Isn't that gun free classroom/school a safe place for our children?
Are the American people ignorant about what is going on?
I sit here every night wondering how ignorant some of the people in this country can actually be, knowing this is the environment their kids are subjected to in schools and they don't want armed teachers in schools.
SMH
 
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You're precisely correct; we're talking about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. "Congress shall make no law," etc. The Constitution and its amendments define and constrain the government, not private actors. Wal*Mart is free to say it'll only sell guns to left-handed people born on the third Tuesday after the winter solstice if it wants. No protected class is implicated here (in most jurisdictions), so there's nothing against statute, and certainly nothing implicating a Constitutional protection.

Yes, but Wal*Mart and every corporation has a moral obligation to serve the public without discrimination. if you're walmart, you don't have to sell guns if you don't want to. but you can't deny it to a certain group of people you don't like on the basis of race, age, sex etc.
 

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Yes, but Wal*Mart and every corporation has a moral obligation to serve the public without discrimination. if you're walmart, you don't have to sell guns if you don't want to. but you can't deny it to a certain group of people you don't like on the basis of race, age, sex etc.
Read above; age is only a protected class for those above forty (in most jurisdictions). As for "moral obligations," corporations have a general duty to act in the benefit of the shareholders, and management enjoys broad latitude (under the "business judgement rule") as to just how to do that. Given that firearms violence is a hot-button social issue right now, it'd be pretty easy to say that restricting sales those 21 and older (where legal to do so) is acting as a good corporate citizen, and therefore entirely a permissible act.
 

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You're precisely correct; we're talking about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. "Congress shall make no law," etc. The Constitution and its amendments define and constrain the government, not private actors. Wal*Mart is free to say it'll only sell guns to left-handed people born on the third Tuesday after the winter solstice if it wants. No protected class is implicated here (in most jurisdictions), so there's nothing against statute, and certainly nothing implicating a Constitutional protection.
I agree, lots of folks do not understand that the amendments are protections from tyranny. The only other time is if a protected class is being abused. But, what defines a protected class?
 

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