I never bought a gun from Otasco, but the only gun my dad ever bought was when otasco was going out of business. .22 Revolver that is identical to the Heritage Rough Riders that are sold now. Those revo's have been around for a long time. Dad gave $25 for it on clearance. A piece that was soldered on in the trigger group fell off years ago so it's a parts gun now. Already gave Drury the grips. If anyone needs a part for one, let me know.