What happens when you buy a gun

[Letfreedomring]

Well there was this one time in band camp.....

 

[mightymouse]

Some of you folks need to be writing some great thriller novels. You have very active imaginations.

Vivid imaginations, yes. But great thriller novels also require the knowledge of some basic facts. The Konspiracy Kooks are woefully short of that. Here's a big "thank you" to the O.P. for clearly and accurately describing what happens when a firearm is purchased from an FFL.

 

[jc944]

Thank you OP for sharing.

 

[Letfreedomring]

I'm just curious where all these places like Walmart, academy, etc with many stores keep their forms "indefinitely"? Seems like that would be one hell of a log book!

 

[dennishoddy]

The irony that many of us proudly display and talk openly about being firearms owners and what guns we own, but we’re concerned that the gov’t might compile a list of 300-500 million firearms with names attached, and then proceed to go door to door to collect those guns. It really goes to show how few of us understand databases and how frequently and easily those databases hold inaccurate information. Most of the data that would be in a database would be useless because people will have died, moved, or sold those guns.

3:00 am. No knock warrant so your front door comes crashing in.
You and your wife, both naked in bed, now in cuffs are escorted in front of a dozen officers, TV cameras and spotlights.
Warrant says you registered 25 firearms through an FFL. You need to prove you don't still own them so we are going to bust open your safe and rip your home apart until the government is secure in their knowledge you no longer own those firearms.
WAIT! What is this firearm!
You know the rest of the story and don't think this won't happen. It's already happened to more than one gun owner.

 

[hunter966]

what happened to the destroy them after 20 years but retain the bound book. Like was the law in the 80's and 90's ?

I’ve been a FFL holder for close to 29 years and as far as I can remember we’ve always been requied to send in our files to the ATF if we go out of business.

Now before that I can’t say.

 

[mr ed]

How long does FFL need to keep 4473?


20 years

Licensees shall retain each ATF Form 4473 for a period of not less than 20 years after the date of sale or disposition.

How long are licensees required to maintain ATF Forms 4473?​

https://www.atf.gov › ... › Mission Areas › Firearms

 

[BobbyV]

The irony that many of us proudly display and talk openly about being firearms owners and what guns we own, but we’re concerned that the gov’t might compile a list of 300-500 million firearms with names attached, and then proceed to go door to door to collect those guns. It really goes to show how few of us understand databases and how frequently and easily those databases hold inaccurate information. Most of the data that would be in a database would be useless because people will have died, moved, or sold those guns.

Plus, if they're government databases they're usually based on oracle . . . . and oracle doesn't exactly perform that great the majority of the time. So folks would get tired of waiting on search results to come back anyway.

 

[Fredkrueger100]

The irony that many of us proudly display and talk openly about being firearms owners and what guns we own, but we’re concerned that the gov’t might compile a list of 300-500 million firearms with names attached, and then proceed to go door to door to collect those guns. It really goes to show how few of us understand databases and how frequently and easily those databases hold inaccurate information. Most of the data that would be in a database would be useless because people will have died, moved, or sold those guns.

I don’t worry about them going door to door. They won’t. They will disarm us one paper cut at a time. Just like they’ve been doing since 1934.

 

[Dumpstick]

I don’t worry about them going door to door. They won’t. They will disarm us one paper cut at a time. Just like they’ve been doing since 1934.

They won't come to the door. At least, not at first.

They will shut off your electric, and gas service. They will size your bank accounts, freeze your credit cards. Void any professional licenses, so you cannot make a living.

When you are freezing or sweating, as the case may be, and eating bark and leaves, you will ask them please to come take your guns.