When Is Enough Enough?

[uncle money bags]

I don't disagree, for the most part, with what you say however I'm not just talking about gun rights. I'm talking about all of them. I'm talking about things like what the TSA does to people when they travel that never seem to get much attention. Remember the guy that wouldn't let them "touch his junk" and got prosecuted? I'm talking about the ridiculous amount of taxes we pay now and the fact that despite what Obama has said, they will be going up for all of us. We are taxed much higher than they were before the American Revolution. How about the fact that we will all be forced to purchase health insurance whether we want to or not? At almost every turn the Constitution is being either twisted or ignored to suit whatever agenda those in power choose to pursue. The current administration seems to be the most blatant offenders yet. Heck, you don't have to look very far to find data pointing out some pretty sickening voting irregularities that occurred during the last presidential election.

You make very good points. Short of soldiers or government agents firing on American citizens who are exercising their rights, be it peaceable assembly or free speech etc., I dont think the line has been crossed. By that measure Katrina was one of those examples.

 

[Dukester]

You make very good points. Short of soldiers or government agents firing on American citizens who are exercising their rights, be it peaceable assembly or free speech etc., I dont think the line has been crossed. By that measure Katrina was one of those examples.

I'm definitely not advocating violence, I'm just curious what others think.

 

[Dukester]

They come to take guns, there WILL be violence, and death, and blood running in the streets.

You bastards better stand up and fight when they come, thats all I have to say.

Without organization and structure the only blood in the street would be our own.

 

[JB Books]

Well, we won't be organizing to fight from here. From here we about exercising our political rights. Remember guys, if we can get the right people elected we can protect our rights. It's simply a matter of being able to work towards that end.

 

[reddog1]

Screw this, I am out of here. I was not even advocating violence.

Good luck OSA.

 

[uncle money bags]

I'm definitely not advocating violence, I'm just curious what others think.

Nor am i, but i reserve the right to do so if violence is visited upon me or mine. Right now the path to saving our second amendment rights is political, along the lines of what JB advocates. This is how it should be in a free society, even if some question how free it may be. How our government reacts to the will of the people dictates the response.

 

[Dukester]

Nor am i, but i reserve the right to do so if violence is visited upon me or mine. Right now the path to saving our second amendment rights is political, along the lines of what JB advocates. This is how it should be in a free society, even if some question how free it may be. How our government reacts to the will of the people dictates the response.

Sounds reasonable to me

 

[OSU_Chris]

Our recourse has to be in the selection and pressuring of our elected officials. I do not look forward to the day violence is the route we have to go. Sadly however, I think that is closer than any of us would ever want to believe. Its a scary position to be in. That being said I would agree that there are fewer and fewer Americans that would stand up against the governement if it came to be.

No to hijack the subject but I know after the OKC Bombing there was a push to ban the formation of a militia in Oklahoma. Does anyone know off the top of their head what ever happened with that? This came to mind during a debate on the 2nd Amendment and a Lib telling me if I wanted to own guns I should join a militia and train on "those weapons".

 

[Dukester]

Our recourse has to be in the selection and pressuring of our elected officials. I do not look forward to the day violence is the route we have to go. Sadly however, I think that is closer than any of us would ever want to believe. Its a scary position to be in. That being said I would agree that there are fewer and fewer Americans that would stand up against the governement if it came to be.

No to hijack the subject but I know after the OKC Bombing there was a push to ban the formation of a militia in Oklahoma. Does anyone know off the top of their head what ever happened with that? This came to mind during a debate on the 2nd Amendment and a Lib telling me if I wanted to own guns I should join a militia and train on "those weapons".

I would be down with that depending on how it was set up.