Michele Bachmann Undercuts Veterans

[Random Gadfly]

I am going to say something "Revolutionary" for this time we are in.

I do not take a dime from the federal government (my fellow taxpayer) now.

I hope to hell that I don't in the future. (I say that just in case Obamacare is not overturned)

I don't need the federal government to be my parent and take care of me.

Who would have thought that my statement would be "Revolutionary" in America. <Shrug>

 

[Grendel]

Obviously not.....

Linky again: http://bachmann.house.gov/UploadedF...l_Spending_Cuts_and_Estimated_Money_Saved.pdf

Yes I read it. Most of her suggestions are outright asinine. And she provides no data to back up her claims regarding how much money each programs is currently funded with and for those that are not eliminated outright, what aspects of each program should get reduced funding in which areas and by how much.

Anyone who thinks that the "debt" to China actually means something is ludicrous. It's even more ludicrous that the Chinese actually think that we would actually fulfill our debts. What are they going to do? Go to war against us to collect a bad check? That war wold cost more than the debt that we owe to them. And they STILL wouldn't get their money.

 

[tRidiot]

Yes I read it. Most of her suggestions are outright asinine. And she provides no data to back up her claims regarding how much money each programs is currently funded with and for those that are not eliminated outright, what aspects of each program should get reduced funding in which areas and by how much.

Anyone who thinks that the "debt" to China actually means something is ludicrous. It's even more ludicrous that the Chinese actually think that we would actually fulfill our debts. What are they going to do? Go to war against us to collect a bad check? That war wold cost more than the debt that we owe to them. And they STILL wouldn't get their money.

China doesn't HAVE to go to war to cripple the U.S.... all they have to do is call in the debt, refuse to loan any more, and the resultant effect on our global credit rating could CRIPPLE our ability to compete on a world market!

Just look at what happened when Greece's credit rating plummeted and imagine that 100-fold.

Scary thought.

 

[Random Gadfly]

As I stated... the government is growing. Her proposed cuts ain't gonna happen and if they do they'll be negated when the next group of hungry government pigs come to town. This government doesn't give a rat's butt about the Constitution or the limits enumerated within it's text. It's all about power and keeping power by giving money to dependent voters who will keep sending them back for pork.

I agree except the government is elected by "We the People". We deserve the blame to, we vote for and then we ask the politiction to vote for said "benefit" and then whine if it's taken away.

To quote Alexis de Tocqueville:
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."

"We" have been bought.

 

[Random Gadfly]

Yes I read it. Most of her suggestions are outright asinine. And she provides no data to back up her claims regarding how much money each programs is currently funded with and for those that are not eliminated outright, what aspects of each program should get reduced funding in which areas and by how much.

Anyone who thinks that the "debt" to China actually means something is ludicrous. It's even more ludicrous that the Chinese actually think that we would actually fulfill our debts. What are they going to do? Go to war against us to collect a bad check? That war wold cost more than the debt that we owe to them. And they STILL wouldn't get their money.

$14,088,656,348,015 is Ludicrous tell that to my daughters grandchildren.

Taken from http://www.usdebtclock.org/

 

[Hobbes]

To quote Alexis de Tocqueville:
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."

If you check, you'll find that is a False quote

 

[spamby]

With all due respect they could thank me and future generations for working and paying our taxes, for them to keep their benefits.

I have NEVER heard the older generations take that approach with my generation at all, for Social Security or anything. My generation KNOWS that Social Security and all these benefits will not be there for us (and we don't mind). We are planning accordingly. This whole system is a ponsy scheme that has run out of money, due to lack of political leadership and economic knowledge.

By the way my grandpa was one of those "GREATIST GENERATION SERVICE MEMBERS" and my mothers uncle was MIA in WW2.

This has nothing to do with the "GREATIST GENERATION SERVICE MEMBERS" service, just a statement of the financial mess we are in and our children.

Did you read the very last line of my last post? I said I agree but lets start somewhere else before we hit the V.A., yes they are probally one of the worst in the government as to spending.

Here's foriegn money.


how much did the united states spend on foreign aid in 2009?

USA spends about $25.439 Billion for helping the world.

Ok thats a start.

Here's one China.


China Receives $2.5 Billion In Foreign Aid From Countries In Debt To China Lets start there.

It was a quick internet search, some figures might be a little off but I didn't have time to do an in dept search.

All I'm saying is before we start at home, lets cut our spending aboard and then start the reforms. Obama and the government spent more in the first year of being in office than the U.S.A. did in the last ten years. Now he wants us to make the cuts how about the government police themselves and quit spending for PORK barrel programs. Lets quit giving every country in the world foriegn aid.

 

[RickN]

As a vet myself I say cut it all. I didn't defend the Constitution so that this bloated pig government could grow larger with each passing year and our freedoms ripped from our hands and the hands of future generations. Veterans could likely be able to provide for themselves if this government didn't steal from their paychecks each payday for all of our working lives after we served.

Good points and as a vet myself I know that cuts will have to be across the board and NOTHING can be left off the table.

Congresswoman Bachman is proposing $4.5 billion cut for veterans

And that right there is the problem for the lefties. Not that the cuts are from the vets of this country, but that a Republican Woman proposed them. Much like their treatment of Palin they have a real problem with Bachman or any other woman that dares step outside the box.

 

[Random Gadfly]

If you check, you'll find that is a False quote

Fixed:
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."

Peterson, Elmer T., The Daily Oklahoman, December 9, 1951.

Truth none the less.

Care to comment on anything else I said or are you just grading my paper?

 

[donner]

There is a world of difference between entitlement programs that require zero sacrifice from the recipient and veterans benefits that were promised and given in return for services rendered.

If you don't see the difference, you cannot be reasoned with.

Cuts need to be made....start with the unearned entitlements first.

i agree, my point is that we always agree that cuts should be made to programs we personally don't need.

And to the larger point, maybe we as a people should be more concerned with the situations our elected politicians get our solders into in the first place. I agree we need to care for them once we ask them to do something, but perhaps we should be better about the situations we ask them to get into.

And as someone else said, the VA is a bureaucracy like any other in our govt. maybe we should force it to do what most every american family has had to do. Get better with less.