Latest in the Jerome Jay Ersland saga.

[Shootin 4 Fun]

again... totally agree that Ersland has a BIG mouth and in no way am I defending his actions.
but doesn't change the facts on the ground. which is thug never moved again after hitting deck.

it's impossible to nail down time of death within 30 seconds. so ME's statement he was alive has to be bogus.
heat beating or not beating... involuntary muscle movements can include heart... back to the fact it's impossible to nail down time of death within 30 seconds.

no matter how you slice it or dice it.... according to forensic evidence there's a reasonable doubt thug was alive or dead at time of additional five shots. NO one knows ... the only evidence that is for sure is thug never moved again. that points to he was already dead when he hit the deck.

I don't think that you understand Ersland's defense, for his case to hold water he had to agree with the ME that the kid was not dead at the time the last 5 shots were fired. Had he STFU from the beginning he could have just said "wow, I don't remember doing that" it could have been written off has a heat of battle action, but Ersland is such an attention hound that he wouldn't STFU. We can think the conviction is an injustice all we want, but it's Ersland's own words that convicted him.

If you ever have to shoot someone remember this "STFU".

 

[HMFIC]

Box would have been better off having Ersland take the stand and declare the jury to be very sparkly and continue to ask for his baseball.

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Box: Admiral Ersland, did you in fact murder Antwun "Speedy" (or as it turns out, not so speedy) Parker?

Ersland: I like pizza.

Box: Commodore Ersland, are you alone responsible for global warming?

Ersland: I'm an excellent driver.

Box: Starfleet Commander Ersland, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?

Ersland: Ten minutes to Wapner (followed by holding his knees to his chest and rocking back and forth).​

 

[elwoodtrix]

Box would have been better off having Ersland take the stand and declare the jury to be very sparkly and continue to ask for his baseball.

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Box: Admiral Ersland, did you in fact murder Antwun "Speedy" (or as it turns out, not so speedy) Parker?

Ersland: I like pizza.

Box: Commodore Ersland, are you alone responsible for global warming?

Ersland: I'm an excellent driver.

Box: Starfleet Commander Ersland, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?

Ersland: Ten minutes to Wapner (followed by holding his knees to his chest and rocking back and forth).​

pure win!!!

 

[RidgeHunter]

Box would have been better off having Ersland take the stand and declare the jury to be very sparkly and continue to ask for his baseball.

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Box: Admiral Ersland, did you in fact murder Antwun "Speedy" (or as it turns out, not so speedy) Parker?

Ersland: I like pizza.

Box: Commodore Ersland, are you alone responsible for global warming?

Ersland: I'm an excellent driver.

Box: Starfleet Commander Ersland, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?

Ersland: Ten minutes to Wapner (followed by holding his knees to his chest and rocking back and forth).​

This is probably the funniest thing to be posted on OSA in the last 2 years, except the goobers that are unintentionally funny with their stupidity.

I lost it with the title progression from Admiral to Starfleet Commander Ersland. High Larry us. It was obviously Col. Mustard in the pharmacy with the Kel-Tec.

[Broken External Image]

Anybody else wonder it he was an OSA member?

 

[jbarnett]

What's truly frightening is that so many of you don't get it. There are a lot of folks who have a CCL who have no business even owning a gun, much less carrying one.

I agree. And people want to compare a ccl to a member of the US armed forces. Maybe we should make everyone join the military before getting their ccl.

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

Box would have been better off having Ersland take the stand and declare the jury to be very sparkly and continue to ask for his baseball.

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Box: Admiral Ersland, did you in fact murder Antwun "Speedy" (or as it turns out, not so speedy) Parker?

Ersland: I like pizza.

Box: Commodore Ersland, are you alone responsible for global warming?

Ersland: I'm an excellent driver.

Box: Starfleet Commander Ersland, how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?

Ersland: Ten minutes to Wapner (followed by holding his knees to his chest and rocking back and forth).​

Absolutely the best post on this subject ever!

 

[HMFIC]

This is probably the funniest thing to be posted on OSA in the last 2 years, except the goobers that are unintentionally funny with their stupidity.

I lost it with the title progression from Admiral to Starfleet Commander Ersland. High Larry us. It was obviously Col. Mustard in the pharmacy with the Kel-Tec.

[Broken External Image]

Anybody else wonder it he was an OSA member?

Oh I don't know Ridge, you slay me with just about everything you post that's meant to be funny. For what it's worth, I just inhaled Coca Cola with the Col Mustard line

 

[_CY_]

have no clue what Ersland thought... we all know what he says is totally bogus.... he's an idiot and a bald face liar.

what Ersland says has zero to do with the fact that it's impossible to nail down time of death within 30 seconds. it just cannot be done. there is NO way a medical doctor that's a medical examiner not to know this ... this is why I stated for the ME to declare downed thug to be categorically alive when additional five shots were fire is totally bogus.

if I or anyone else states that downed thug was categorically dead at time of additional five shots. that statement would also be bogus. for NO one knows with 100% certainty, either way. that's why I stated there's a possibility he was dead at time of additional shots. with evidence proving thug never moved again after hitting deck, to me that points to thug being dead at time of five shot.... but again NO one knows for sure... that includes the ME.

to convict on murder 1 ... it's my understanding NO reasonable doubts should remain.....
without question a doubt exists whether downed thug was dead or alive when additional five shots was fired.

NO way Ersland should have taken those five shots ... no matter how one analysis the series of events that happened.

Given what you just stated, it's clear that Ersland had no idea if the guy was dead or alive either when he retrieved a second gun and put five more into the guy. Dead or not dead, Ersland's actions show that he tried to (at best), or did (at worst), execute the guy.

Also, the ME's statement doesn't have "to be bogus" just because the time of death isn't known down to the second. It may be his professional opinion that the guy was still alive, but if he can't prove TOD exactly, the neither can you, which means your statement is just as likely to be as 'bogus' as his.

 

[BadgeBunny]

what anyone does 30 seconds into the heat of an armed robbery be considered premeditation is beyond me???? then factor in he was on Opiates and probably doped up when this happened.

yes the jury convicted him on the evidence that was presented.... but the question is did Ersland get a competent defense? for having 4 attorneys on his defense, they sure put up a weak case.

the evidence that proved thug never moved again after hitting the deck should be enough alone to prove a reasonable doubt exist that he was dead when shot 5 more times.



with four defense attorneys ..... working on his defense... how in the world did they have such a weak defense?

they all knew going in Ersland was a liar and scumbag... but his loud mouth doesn't change the forensic evidence.

Box sure did his part in grand standing I'll give him that...

How is the fact that he was higher than a kite any kind of excuse for what he did. And I don't believe that he acted in the heat of the moment. Based on his own words and deeds I think he had dreamed of "his" moment for quite some time.

As far as his attorneys putting up a weak defense, again, an attorney can only work with what the client gives them. Ersland did not give them anything to work with.

You are right about his personal character not changing the forensic evidence but everyone has agreed that some of the evidence was inconclusive (like whether Parker was alive or not). So ... the only thing they had to go on was Ersland's own statements, coupled with the forensic evidence ... and Ersland said he was still alive.

I'll also give you that there was some question as to whether Parker was actually a threat. Again, Ersland's own actions and statements, coupled with the forensic evidence, was what the jury had to work with. Apparently, in not only the DA's eyes but also the jury's (and I suspect Ersland's defense team's eyes also) the evidence led them to believe that Parker was NOT a threat.

I don't think Ersland was found guilty of murder because he is a liar, a drug addict and a mental case. I believe he was found guilty of murder because he did, in fact, commit murder.

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

have no clue what Ersland thought... we all know what he says is totally bogus.... he's an idiot and a bald face liar.

what Ersland says has zero to do with the fact that it's impossible to nail down time of death within 30 seconds. it just cannot be done. there is NO way a medical doctor that's a medical examiner not to know this ... this is why I stated for the ME to declare downed thug to be categorically alive when additional five shots were fire is totally bogus.

if I or anyone else states that downed thug was categorically dead at time of additional five shots. that statement would also be bogus. for NO one knows with 100% certainty, either way. that's why I stated there's a possibility he was dead at time of additional shots. with evidence proving thug never moved again after hitting deck, to me that points to thug being dead at time of five shot.... but again NO one knows for sure... that includes the ME.

to convict on murder 1 ... it's my understanding NO reasonable doubts should remain.....
without question a doubt exists whether downed thug was dead or alive when additional five shots was fired.

NO way Ersland should have taken those five shots ... no matter how one analysis the series of events that happened.

They had an eyewitness the the thug was still alive when the shots were taken, so proving within 30 seconds is not necessary.