Islam and the Religious Weakness of the West

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MaddSkillz

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How bad is his arrogance? Like maybe telling the German people they need Dawkins from the vantage point of Oklahoma? How about that christians owe their freedom to atheist values? or Nah?

I'm afraid you're unaware that Christians cannot be arrogant... I'll also add that "militant" cannot be used to describe Christianity and Christians, either. Only Atheism and atheists.
 

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I'm a Christian, but not religious. My wife is a Christian, and describes herself as religious. We have a 23 year old son that is all at once intelligent, ignorant and arrogant. He is a self-described atheist. I had assumed his ignorance/arrogance was due to his age. My bad.

Sounds like he's gonna burn forever. You better save him from your self-labeled, "all-loving," egotistical, torture chamber designing, building and implementing, god. He gets angry when people don't believe in him. His ego simply cannot take that. They deserve eternal, horrendous punishment because of it. But he loves them.
 
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How bad is his arrogance? Like maybe telling the German people they need Dawkins from the vantage point of Oklahoma? How about that christians owe their freedom to atheist values? or Nah?

No, I was at least able to teach him to not tell other folks how to live. He has had some of the same struggles I've had, and has been granted many second chances at life, as I have. When I try to credit God as the source of my strength, he is quick to argue. He has a whole raft of people that are the only ones willing to help him, most all are Christians, and the grace we've received is the reason we are able to extend that to him. And yet he wants to deny what is being demonstrated to him. Oh well, it does say in Proverbs that there is no God, I guess for some folks that's the verse they live by.
 

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No, I was at least able to teach him to not tell other folks how to live.

Maybe we should get you and Dale together then?

. He has had some of the same struggles I've had, and has been granted many second chances at life, as I have. When I try to credit God as the source of my strength, he is quick to argue. He has a whole raft of people that are the only ones willing to help him, most all are Christians, and the grace we've received is the reason we are able to extend that to him. And yet he wants to deny what is being demonstrated to him.

Can't really speak for him, don't know what he's going through. I DO understand seeing through people's extension of help, when it seems at least on a small scale, recruitment is mind or at the very least a validation of similar religious views. I find very little true alturistic behavior coming from religious avenues, there's always that caveat.
 

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Maybe we should get you and Dale together then?

he probably would disagree with most of my views


Can't really speak for him, don't know what he's going through. I DO understand seeing through people's extension of help, when it seems at least on a small scale, recruitment is mind or at the very least a validation of similar religious views. I find very little true alturistic behavior coming from religious avenues, there's always that caveat.

And there's the rub. Religion is just a form of government. (an official body dictating how one must live) In our country it's voluntary submission. Actually trusting and having a relationship with Jesus, on the other hand - will bring about a change to a person. Rules and traditions have zero to do with that.

My take on Germany (and every other country) is that people do need a personal relationship with God. They also need to be free of the guilt society tries to lay on them for wanting to preserve their culture. Germany for Germans, if that's the way the Germans want it. (some old-fashioned tribalism may discourage the barbaric hordes from attacking German women)
 

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And there's the rub. Religion is just a form of government. (an official body dictating how one must live) In our country it's voluntary submission. Actually trusting and having a relationship with Jesus, on the other hand - will bring about a change to a person. Rules and traditions have zero to do with that.

I had a relationship with Jesus for over 25 years. It was abusive, so I left. I'm a lot happier now which is just more evidence that your claim is baseless.

My take on Germany (and every other country) is that people do need a personal relationship with God. They also need to be free of the guilt society tries to lay on them for wanting to preserve their culture. Germany for Germans, if that's the way the Germans want it. (some old-fashioned tribalism may discourage the barbaric hordes from attacking German women)

You're contractually obligated to think that.

It's funny you mention tribalism. That's precisely how I see religion. As long as you think like them, you're a part of the tribe. If you stop thinking like them, you're no longer a part and are cast out. It's all too common for "apostates."
 

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