Anyone register a pistol brace?

[Chuckie]

Again . . . two totally different things here.

I'm not going to go out searching for idiots with guns and give them a good scolding to make myself or any other gun owner look better in the eyes of idiots who already have preconceived notions and bias against guns that won't ever change.

There is no such thing as a 'preconceived' notion. Every negative (or positive) belief began at some time with a bad (or good) personal experience by someone. Of course there are always those that get their beliefs/notions through the 'he said-she said-they said-my friend said-my relative said' basis, which is not based on actual personal experience but just on what others have SAID.

Shooting sports such as competitions and hunting used to be well received among most Americans with competitions being regularly televised. Idiots that mishandled their weapons were NOT tolerated by the gun community and especially by shooting-range safety officers and range owners - in other words we in the gun community policed ourselves, and by doing so, were seen as a responsible and acceptable group of sportsmen, which drew others into the 'Shooting Sports', increased the number of sanctioned shooting ranges, increased the interest in competitions, increased the number of gun/gun accessory venues, and helped keep the overall prices of guns and gun related accessories down through volume sales.

Now days it's more fun to watch videos on social media about idiots mishandling guns and even giving them a 'thumb-up' for their stupidity. We critique 'mass' shootings as if it was a sporting event. We applaud gun accessory manufacturers when they introduce work-a-rounds for our [illegal use] pleasure . . . then we wonder why the gun community is demonized without a thought about how that came about, and then we constantly whine and cry about 'unfair' restrictions or bans placed on us because of what those idiot gun owners did. The gun community has become it's own worse enemy!

 

[BobbyV]

There is no such thing as a 'preconceived' notion. Every negative (or positive) belief began at some time with a bad (or good) personal experience by someone. Of course there are always those that get their beliefs/notions through the 'he said-she said-they said-my friend said-my relative said' basis, which is not based on actual personal experience but just on what others have SAID.

This is by definition what a preconceived notion is . . . . and they exist all around us every day. People use them to judge others based on stereotypes and what they believe to be reality.

So yes, there are such things as preconceived notions that are used to judge gun owners based on the actions of idiots with guns. Our opinion of those idiots will do nothing to change the minds of those who hold those notions.

 

[Chuckie]

This is by definition what a preconceived notion is . . . . and they exist all around us every day. People use them to judge others based on stereotypes and what they believe to be reality.

So yes, there are such things as preconceived notions that are used to judge gun owners based on the actions of idiots with guns. Our opinion of those idiots will do nothing to change the minds of those who hold those notions.

I agree that some things, once seen, cannot be unseen.

You made some interesting points about preconceived notions Bobby. But as a young child your belief that getting burned with fire will hurt was because of either your own experience or by being told so, due to the experience of others. You did not have a 'preconceived' belief, but one based on the experience of someone (yours or that of someone else). So, logically speaking, it should come back to beliefs are mostly based upon an experience (yours or that of someone else) which would leave no room for 'preconceived' notions.
Unfortunately not everyone seems to use the experience of others or their own to develop a belief or opinion, so in a way you are right my friend. I have to admit now (thanks) that 'preconceived' notions can . . . and do exist.

 

[Fredkrueger100]

Relax dude! Its not that much of a conundrum! The gun community brought this on themselves. Start with the asshats on youtube that shouldered the weapons with the braces on. Then continue by watching videos where they are running defense drills with the brace and using it as a stock. Rule number one is don't poke the bear! Those goofs were poking the bear right a left. The bear finally got tired of being poked. You wanna be mad at something/ someone? Be mad at the gun community for displaying outright stupidity and losing the privelege for those who used the tool correctly.

No, I’m mad at folks like you that want to preach at folks like me because I don’t bend the knee. You did. Like I’ve said before, I don’t have any pistols anymore so it doesn’t affect me, yet. But for you to sit on here and run folks down for speaking out against the tyrannical government we have is ridiculous. I know where you stand. When the time comes I know what side you’ll be on.

 

[Fredkrueger100]

Oh man. One sad moment in video games…

Not as sad as RDR2 though…

Yeah both endings were hard. Amazing games though.

 

[Fredkrueger100]

I think the more one spouts off here and admits one way or the other, is ammo for the feds that are keeping tabs on everyone in this forum. Talking about the rule and legalese and greivances and countermeasures is one thing. Lack of SA or sense is another.
Some things one should be self and situationally aware and be as innocuous as possible...unless you're rich AF and can afford to deal with the GOV especially in its current state.
But many are lacking any awareness of self or situation and are bringing heat on themselves because they love to tell on themselves, like they're doing something righteous instead of knowing when to STFU. I hope those folks get forgotten about, but, feds don't forget sh*t.

You sure like to run your mouth about folks on this site. Maybe you need to take your own advice that you keep telling others to do.

 

[HiredHand]

The whole reason that SBRs and SBS were included in the NFA was to keep people from using a loophole around the original intention of the NFA which was to prohibit the ownership of handguns via taxation. Yes, you heard me. The NFA was intended to prohibit people from owning handguns which were concealable in public. Later on it was decided not to include handguns as part of the NFA.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

The whole reason that SBRs and SBS were included in the NFA was to keep people from using a loophole around the original intention of the NFA which was to prohibit the ownership of handguns via taxation. Yes, you heard me. The NFA was intended to prohibit people from owning handguns which were concealable in public. Later on it was decided not to include handguns as part of the NFA.

Regardless of that, it is very stupid the short barreled rifle NFA registration. I think if you look at FRT triggers, the auto key card, bump stocks and the brace they have one thing in common: the AR15 has been the focus. I would also suspect that in spite of mass non compliance people will be prosecuted and made an example of. Good examples, the Twitter meme artist who was thrown in prison, the people who entered the Capitol on January 6th 2020. Got more than one brace? You get to the top of the list if you didn't register them.

 

[JD8]

There is no such thing as a 'preconceived' notion. Every negative (or positive) belief began at some time with a bad (or good) personal experience by someone. Of course there are always those that get their beliefs/notions through the 'he said-she said-they said-my friend said-my relative said' basis, which is not based on actual personal experience but just on what others have SAID.

Shooting sports such as competitions and hunting used to be well received among most Americans with competitions being regularly televised. Idiots that mishandled their weapons were NOT tolerated by the gun community and especially by shooting-range safety officers and range owners - in other words we in the gun community policed ourselves, and by doing so, were seen as a responsible and acceptable group of sportsmen, which drew others into the 'Shooting Sports', increased the number of sanctioned shooting ranges, increased the interest in competitions, increased the number of gun/gun accessory venues, and helped keep the overall prices of guns and gun related accessories down through volume sales.

Now days it's more fun to watch videos on social media about idiots mishandling guns and even giving them a 'thumb-up' for their stupidity. We critique 'mass' shootings as if it was a sporting event. We applaud gun accessory manufacturers when they introduce work-a-rounds for our [illegal use] pleasure . . . then we wonder why the gun community is demonized without a thought about how that came about, and then we constantly whine and cry about 'unfair' restrictions or bans placed on us because of what those idiot gun owners did. The gun community has become it's own worse enemy!

FUDD harder daddy......

 

[JEVapa]

You sure like to run your mouth about folks on this site. Maybe you need to take your own advice that you keep telling others to do.

I don't tell people what to do. I just said if you have a big fcking mouth, people are watching and it might behoove stupid people to stfu. You're not developed enough to understand that, but that's ok. Keep driving on.