Anyone register a pistol brace?

[HiredHand]

Regardless of that, it is very stupid the short barreled rifle NFA registration. I think if you look at FRT triggers, the auto key card, bump stocks and the brace they have one thing in common: the AR15 has been the focus. I would also suspect that in spite of mass non compliance people will be prosecuted and made an example of. Good examples, the Twitter meme artist who was thrown in prison, the people who entered the Capitol on January 6th 2020. Got more than one brace? You get to the top of the list if you didn't register them.

You ever look at the number of prosecutions for weapons violations? NFA related violations barely make a blip on the radar from what I can find.

"While there are numerous federal provisions, just one of these accounts for three out of every four federal weapons prosecutions. During FY 2017, federal records indicate this was the lead charge for 6,161 prosecutions. This statutory provision is found at 18 USC § 922(g)(1) which prohibits any felon from possessing, shipping/transporting, or receiving any firearm or ammunition. The penalty for violating this law is up to ten years imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine" source:Federal Weapons Prosecutions Rise for Third Consecutive Year

 

[Big50]

I think some ATF agents will be all over this and and others will not give it a thought. My guess is it will be overturned.

 

[Beautiful Mulberry]

FUDD harder daddy......

What does this mean? Boomer talk?
Tread on me harder daddy? Instead of don’t tread on me?

 

[Beautiful Mulberry]

I think some ATF agents will be all over this and and others will not give it a thought. My guess is it will be overturned.

Hell with the ATF. Those tyrants need to be put in their place. Shut down. It need to be overturned.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

You ever look at the number of prosecutions for weapons violations? NFA related violations barely make a blip on the radar from what I can find.

"While there are numerous federal provisions, just one of these accounts for three out of every four federal weapons prosecutions. During FY 2017, federal records indicate this was the lead charge for 6,161 prosecutions. This statutory provision is found at 18 USC § 922(g)(1) which prohibits any felon from possessing, shipping/transporting, or receiving any firearm or ammunition. The penalty for violating this law is up to ten years imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine" source:Federal Weapons Prosecutions Rise for Third Consecutive Year

I get that, however for decades you rarely heard of FFL's being revoked, now you hear of it consistently. Also with the partnership of the news oligarchs, there will be a lot of publicity. BTW, great discussion and challenge with the reference to numbers that back you up!

 

[Chuckie]

What does this mean? Boomer talk?
Tread on me harder daddy? Instead of don’t tread on me?

The term 'FUDD' is slang for a casual gun owner, usually someone that only use their firearm(s) for things like occasional target shooting or hunting and HD (most of us).
Some people believe that if you're not constantly hunting or burning through 1000's of rnds monthly you're not a 'REAL' gun owner.
Guilty as charged then because at 73-years of age I don't get out to hunt or even to the target range as often as I once did, especially since I quit driving.

 

[Gideon]

The term 'FUDD' is slang for a casual gun owner, usually someone that only use their firearm(s) for things like occasional target shooting or hunting and HD (most of us).
Some people believe that if you're not constantly hunting or burning through 1000's of rnds monthly you're not a 'REAL' gun owner.
Guilty as charged then because at 73-years of age I don't get out to hunt or even to the target range as often as I once did, especially since I quit driving.

A Fudd is someone who doesn't care about other people's rights so long as their niche use isn't affected.
Someone who doesn't care about an assault weapons ban because it doesn't ban his deer rifle, for example, hence "Fudd", as in Elmer Fudd.

Typically, these individuals will support various gun control measures, with the hopes that supporting such regulations now will prevent the gun control lobby from turning on them later.
Like feeding others to the lion in the hopes that it will choose not to eventually eat you too.

 

[Chuckie]

A Fudd is someone who doesn't care about other people's rights so long as their niche use isn't affected.
Someone who doesn't care about an assault weapons ban because it doesn't ban his deer rifle, for example, hence "Fudd", as in Elmer Fudd.

Typically, these individuals will support various gun control measures, with the hopes that supporting such regulations now will prevent the gun control lobby from turning on them later.
Like feeding others to the lion in the hopes that it will choose not to eventually eat you too.

OK, I stand corrected on the meaning of the term 'FUDD' as used by the gun community. I needed to read into it further than I did.
If you read through my comments on the matter you will see that I'm not for gun control, but I am for people keeping their mouth shut instead of bragging about having that 'brace' slapped on their SBR and then claiming it automatically exempts it from ATF registration requirements (then arguing with the ATF when told differently), or offering 3D-printed work-a-rounds, or posting instructions on DIY suppressors . . . then bitching when the ATF proposes restrictions or bans on the illegal activities by those that KNOW what they are/were doing is illegal.

If the gun community does not want .gov restricting or banning their firearm or firearm accessories, then STOP giving the ATF reasons to do so. That's all I'm trying to say, bend the rules if you will, but stfu about doing so.

 

[Seadog]

You need to get out of your cocoon Shadowrider and watch some of the videos on either YouTube, TicToK or some of the other social media sites that show idiots flaunting their 3D printed guns (Ghost Guns), their non-registered NFA items (mostly homemade suppressors or shortened firearms), or their 'plans' on how to change semi to fully auto weapons, to name a few things.
Owning guns whether legal or not they are still considered to be part of the gun community, and yes, they DO poke the ATF bear by their shenanigans, which of course, brings that bear down on the rest of us.
And as much as you would like to blame the sitting President for everything that happens under the sun, in the Universe, in Heaven, and in Hell, Biden has absolutely nothing to do with any of this crap which is being brought down on by those less than scrupulous idiots always flippin' the ATF off.
I'll say it again - unless the gun community polices itself, the government WILL step-in to do the policing.

Beijing Biden hasn’t done anything? He hasn’t been calling for a semi automatic assault weapon ban? The ATF aren’t minions of his? The Democrats are trying to ban everything under the sun? Come on man

 

[Chuckie]

Beijing Biden hasn’t done anything? He hasn’t been calling for a semi automatic assault weapon ban? The ATF aren’t minions of his? The Democrats are trying to ban everything under the sun? Come on manA

- Again, the President has very limited powers himself. The best he can do are 'Executive Orders' which are not laws and are, at best, temporary in nature (almost always rescinded/cancelled by the next President). At the Federal level the ONLY ones that can pass laws are Congress. The ONLY ones that can change our Constitution is Congress. The ONLY ones that can ban assault rifles nation-wide is Congress.
- The President calling for assault weapon bans has about the same effective as YOU calling for assault weapon bans - absolutely none.
- People have much more to fear from State legislated weapon/weapon accessory bans which DO become laws (in that State). But if you are not a resident of that state where the laws apply, then it has no affect on you.
- As far as the ATF goes: " The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) was established as a separate component within the Department of Justice pursuant to Title XI of the Homeland Security Act of 2002, Public Law 107-296, on January 17, 2003." approved by Congress, so the ATF does have authority granted by Congress to enforce establish rules and regulations concerning firearms. Bump-stocks (for example) were a 'technically illegal' work-a-round to enable fully automatic rifle operation out of semi-automatic rifles, therefore, the ATF ban on Bump-stocks was nothing more than an enforcement of regulations that already existed, the regulations that banned unregulated/unregistered machine guns. Still, if a Bump-stock hadn't played a role in the Las Vegas concert 'mass shooting', then the ATF would have probably continued to just ignore their existence - no harm, no foul!