Are you better off not carrying your permit?

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In Texas if you don't renew within 12 months of your permit expiration, you have to go through the whole thing again.

I guess I don't understand why she would have a problem with a semi automatic whether she has a permit or not if a permit is not required in the first place.

I was thinking in OK if it is more than 90 days you have to apply again or something? I don't remember offhand, I oughtta go look it up, since I'm gonna be in that category, prolly.
 

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There is a 90 day grace period that starts on the expiration date, after the 90 day grace period the license is considered expired. You have three years from the expiration date to renew it, after three years you have to start over with the training class, application, etc.

Interesting question about whether the license limits you to a revolver. I am not a lawyer, but as best I can tell it just says you can carry a handgun concealed or unconcealed if you have a license, or are 21 years or older, and are not a restricted person. I hope some of our lawyers will respond, but a very brief look at the SDA it does not look to me like the restriction on the license means anything anymore.

Take all that with a grain of salt because sometimes I'm an idiot... It's all in the SDA though.
 
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1290.14 says if you qualify for a permit with a revolver, you can carry a deringer or revolver but not a semiauto. If you qualify with a semiauto, you can carry anything. My wife qualified with a revolver. I guess she could go qualify with a semiauto but I still have my questions. If she leaves the permit at home, is she then good to go with everything? Interesting info about liquor establishments.
 
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With Oklahoma’s Constitutional Carry Law she can carry ANY handgun .45 caliber and smaller. Her license DOES NOT restrict her to a revolver. However, if she goes out of state, and that state is not a Constitutional Carry state but has reciprocity with Oklahoma she WILL be restricted to a revolver.


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Texas used to be that same way. You had to qualify with a semi-automatic to be able to carry one. And you could not qualify with a .22 caliber. But they have changed both of those and now you can qualify with a .22 revolver and carry a 45 semi-auto. I think all of that changed a couple of years ago.
 

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Well, one of the benefits of the permit is that you can enter an establishment that serves alcohol where as you can not do that without the permit. With the permit, you can enter as long as they don't exceed 51% of revenue from alcohol sales. Without a permit, no entry if ANY alcohol served.
Exactly. Which is most restaurants these days; at least those one would actually eat in.
 
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My understanding is that come November 1st you will be able to carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol under Constitutional Carry.
The revolver/semi auto issue with the CHL is why I have procrastinated. I carry both depending on sitution and sometimes at the same time (BUG). When and IF the ATF approves the CHL is good for NICS I will probably reconsider.
 
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I have renewed my permit because of the abilities if gives you to carry in other states. However, if you are in Oklahoma, is there any advantage to carrying your permit (the card) with you now that we have permitless carry? What got me thinking about this is that my wife's permit is for revolvers but not semi-autos. So if she wanted to carry a semi-auto or say that the semi-auto I left in the car with her while I ran into the liquor store, was hers, it seems she would be better off without the permit on her. Does the permit give you any advantages over permitless carry while in Oklahoma? Also, does the fact that you have a permit, even if it isn't on your person, restrict you to the rules for carry permits? I hope this hasn't already been covered.
if your carrying and have a permit, don't we still have to notify the officer if we are stopped. I always give them the permit and license.
 
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if your carrying and have a permit, don't we still have to notify the officer if we are stopped. I always give them the permit and license.
Does bring up a few questions about which takes precedence. When you get your permit you still have to qualify for revolver or semi-auto (I know because my wife recently got hers) and they teach you that you have to inform the officers. With the constitutional carry laws does that negate the rules associated with your license?

I agree with you though, If I am stopped I would notify the officer just for the sheer fact that I don't want them to notice it during the interaction and for things to escalate, even if it wasn't required.
 

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I think this is correct - it's why I renewed mine.

Per the SDA license: Having a license permits having a loaded and round chambered long gun in a vehicle. Without it, it cannot. I have no idea if constitutional carry trumps this.
 
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