with all the talk on banning guns, movies and games, why hasn't anyone brought up the idea of banning public schools? They are obviously dangerous places so if we want to protect our kids lets get rid of the dangerous place. Home school kids get to spend more time with mom/dad at home which will strengthen the family. If we can strengthen the family dynamic we will be on a great road to fixing the problem with the world and that is the people, not the environment. I grew up on 80's slasher flicks, the only video games I ever liked were either driving or shooting games, then I joined the army where I was trained to kill effectively but never once did I get up one day and say "hey I think I'm going to go shoot some folks today" This never crossed my mind because my parents raised me, they didn't rely on the system to do it. I went to school like everyone else but I learned how to live my life from my parents and grandparents. I don't see where banning public school is any more extreme an idea than any form of gun ban, mag capacity limit, or registration of any kind. Bottom line if your tired of the acts of people then lets work on the problem and thats the person, not the tool they use.
I agree! Ban skewl!
Took my kids out of public schools 3 years ago and they will never go back.
Home school has worked out very well for us and there has not been an issue with the teachers being armed before, during and after school.
Home school also worked well for my children. Teacher and principal were regularly armed and no discipline issues. Oh and for those worried - they did receive sufficient socialization of the positive kind - not the mixed bag of socialization from public school.
You cant close the Indoc Centers! Those people in DC couldn't get anyone to vote for them then.
Mind elaborating on this? Not that I'm trying to argue by any means, I just figure that mixed bag at public schools IS positive socialization. It teaches kids how to deal with the same sex, opposite sex, nice kids, mean kids, fat kids, skinny kids, kids who climb on rocks.
I think Gov. Fallin and the legislature are trying to get more funding for private schools etc. and in effect getting rid of public schools. At least that's what
the Tulsa World liberal newspaper is accusing them of doing!
the Tulsa World liberal newspaper is accusing them of doing!
as far as socialization goes, if everyone is doing homeschool people would naturally begin to get with their neighbors and spend more time with other parents from their church or whatever other social areas the parents go to. And the small groups could do activities together and use the world as their classroom. The other thing to is without the state running the schools how much money would that free up? I'm sure more than enough to furnish at home curriculum for everyone, and lets make sure the state isn't the one sending the curriculum also. I think the parents need to be able to decide what curriculum they teach their child.
Absolutely would not mind elaborating but first I'll throw in my disclaimer - I am a product of mostly NY City public schools - except for middle school when I attended a local private Catholic school. Socialization is always useful but in my opinion that is a fig leaf in the home schooling discussion used to cover a lack of real analysis of what one means by socialization. My youngest three children were educated at home but were not locked int he house. They engaged the general public through Scouting, Church, civic organizations (besides Scouting), sports, and work. What I didn't do was hand over their care to a relative stranger for most of the waking hours of most days of the year.
Public school socialization may include many things that while existing in the world are certainly not good for children. BTW - this is not an indictment of all public schooling - there are good public schools - but in recent years especially it has become very difficult for parents to influence or, in some cases, even be aware of what is being taught or occurring within the school. That is not a good situation.
I know I didn't eliminate all negative aspects of life for my kids - there are jerks and dirtbags in Scouting and in Churches, and at various jobs but I feel that my kids were much better prepared to deal with the onslaught of what I consider negative aspects of society via home-school preparation than if I had simply thrown them to the winds of a public school system which often has not just poor curriculum but questionable standards of conduct and many disciplinary issues. All of the kids interaction issues you mentioned were still there but now my wife and I were much more aware and a much more significant influence in our own childrens' lives.
As a side benefit I will add that my kids arrived at college - they are all in college right now - much better prepared academically as well. That is a side benefit but a significant one. They were all proficient in advanced math, Latin, and knew far more US and World history than most of their peers from public or private schools. They also were very conversant with Classical literature (Greek, Latin classics) and the European political thought (Machiavelli, Hobbes, Locke, etc.)
BTW - consider that some of what you are calling "good" socialization may not be - bullying, early sexual activity, drugs, etc. You're right a kid may learn to deal with (or accommodate or take part in) those things but he may also become overwhelmed. Once again if parents stay involved that may do the trick but it can be uphill fight and often the schools themselves work against parental interest and involvement.
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