Bloomberg doens't want you to be able to Stand Your Ground

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http://news.yahoo.com/mayor-bloomberg-launches-campaign-against-gun-laws-231830485.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg launched a national campaign against gun laws that he said "justify civilian gun play."

Bloomberg was joined by the leaders from the NAACP, National Urban League and other groups Wednesday at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., as he announced "Second Chance on Shoot First."

The campaign aims to repeal or reform the laws that eliminated a person's duty to retreat when threatened with serious bodily harm or death. These laws have passed in 25 states.

Bloomberg said these laws undermine the integrity of the justice system, threaten public safety and make it more difficult to prosecute shooters.

The grassroots campaign will contact state legislators who have passed what he terms "shoot first" laws, produce education material for the public and create model legislation.

"The tragic death of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., touched a nerve all across this country," Bloomberg said. "I believe we all have a responsibility to investigate the meaning of this terrible event for our nation and then to take action."

Bloomberg said neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, who shot Martin, should have never had a gun with his history of violence. He said New York and other states would not have allowed him to carry a gun.

With the recent announcement that Zimmerman will be charged in the shooting, Bloomberg simply said, "Let justice be served."

"I'm told the prosecutor is a woman with a lot of experience and I'm sure she'll look at this and decide what actions are appropriate, but I'll leave it to her," he said.

Bloomberg said his campaign to change the laws is not undermined by the recent charges brought against Zimmerman.

"I'm trying to protect people across this country," he said. "I go to states with Stand Your Ground laws. My daughters go to states with Stand Your Ground laws. This is a part of America and I think these kinds of laws that lead to vigilantism are just not appropriate."

Florida's Stand Your Ground law is central to the Martin shooting since Zimmerman has claimed self-defense.

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's parents, said they have no objection to the amended statutes being named the Trayvon Martin Law.

"We have to have this Trayvon Martin Law become the law of the land," Crump said in an interview with The Associated Press on Wednesday. "That says if you are the aggressor, if you are engaged in confrontation, you can't then say 'oh, I killed the person but I'm going to stand my ground.' That can't be part of the law. The police have got to be able to arrest people who kill unarmed people. We're not the wild, wild West. We can't let that message go forth to the world. I think that's a big part of the legacy."

Martin's father said naming the amended law after his son would be a big step in the direction of justice for "millions of Trayvons."

"It's sad that we have to try to get an amended law in our son's name just to get simple justice," Martin said in an interview with the AP. "We feel we shouldn't have had to go through these great lengths to get justice for our family. A lot of people applaud us for what we're doing, but we feel the things that we're doing is what any loving and caring parent would do for their child."
 

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http://myrightwingdad.blogspot.com/2009/02/re-divorce-agreement-between-liberal.html

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:

We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

Here is a model separation agreement:

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).

We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .

You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N.. but we will no longer be paying the bill.

We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.

You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.

We'll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

Sincerely,

John J. Wall
Law Student and an American

P.S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand & Jane Fonda with you.

P.P.S Of course you could not forget Pelosi as leader of the gang!
 

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Based on the following it appears that Bloomberg's administration is deliberately manipulating crime statistics to make NYC appear safer than it really is. "Crime what crime? NYC is a gun control paradise. We don't need no 'Stand Your Ground.'"

For more than two years, Adrian Schoolcraft secretly recorded every roll call at the 81st Precinct in Brooklyn and captured his superiors urging police officers to do two things in order to manipulate the "stats" that the department is under pressure to produce: Officers were told to arrest people who were doing little more than standing on the street, but they were also encouraged to disregard actual victims of serious crimes who wanted to file reports.

Arresting bystanders made it look like the department was efficient, while artificially reducing the amount of serious crime made the commander look good.

In October 2009, Schoolcraft met with NYPD investigators for three hours and detailed more than a dozen cases of crime reports being manipulated in the district. Three weeks after that meeting — which was supposed to have been kept secret from Schoolcraft's superiors — his precinct commander and a deputy chief ordered Schoolcraft to be dragged from his apartment and forced into the Jamaica Hospital psychiatric ward for six days.

... NYPD commissioner Raymond Kelly ordered an investigation into Schoolcraft's claims. By June 2010, that investigation produced a report that the department has tried to keep secret for nearly two years.

The Voice has obtained that 95-page report, and it shows that the NYPD confirmed Schoolcraft's allegations. In other words, at the same time that police officials were attacking Schoolcraft's credibility, refusing to pay him, and serving him with administrative charges, the NYPD was sitting on a document that thoroughly vindicated his claims.

. . .

The investigation found that crime complaints were changed to reflect misdemeanor rather than felony crimes, which prevented those incidents from being counted in the all-important crime statistics. In addition, the investigation concluded that "an unwillingness to prepare reports for index crimes exists or existed in the command."

Moreover, a significant number of serious index crimes were not entered into the computer tracking system known as OmniForm. "This was more than administrative error," the probe concluded.

There was an "atmosphere in the command where index crimes were scrutinized to the point where it became easier to either not take the report at all or to take a report for a lesser, non-index crime," investigators concluded.

Precinct Commander Steven Mauriello "failed to meet [his] responsibility." As a result, "an atmosphere was created discouraging members of the command to accurately report index crimes."
http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2012/03/vindictive-bureaucracy-seeks-to-destroy.html

And this idiot has the nerve to tell the rest of the country how to run their business?
 

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"I'm trying to protect people across this country," ....
I dont need your protection, I have my own. And I will stand my ground, and protect my Family
Thank You , Now Go Away
 
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"We have to have this Trayvon Martin Law become the law of the land," Crump said in an interview with The Associated Press on Wednesday. "That says if you are the aggressor, if you are engaged in confrontation, you can't then say 'oh, I killed the person but I'm going to stand my ground.' That can't be part of the law. The police have got to be able to arrest people who kill unarmed people. We're not the wild, wild West. We can't let that message go forth to the world. I think that's a big part of the legacy."
I can not think of a problem with the changes I've highlighted above. Personally I do not believe the stand your ground laws were meant to provide protection to those who have instigated a physical confrontation. However it would be a mistake to remove the protection of that law from those who through no fault of their own are attacked by another person.

Michael
 

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"I'm trying to protect people across this country," ....
I dont need your protection, I have my own. And I will stand my ground, and protect my Family
Thank You , Now Go Away

That's funny.

And this:

"I go to states with Stand Your Ground laws. My daughters go to states with Stand Your Ground laws. This is a part of America and I think these kinds of laws that lead to vigilantism are just not appropriate."

As long as they're not wearing a hoodie, what's he worried about? But seriously, if that's what he thinks about us, I don't want him in our state. When I think about it, I don't want him in our state period.
 

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