Constitutional Carry (SB 1212) on the OK House floor 4/23

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I still see some things I’m concerned about.

“G. H. For purposes of this section, "sawed-off shotgun or
rifle" shall mean any shotgun or rifle which has been shortened to
any length.”

I’m concerned about the words “shortened to any length”.

An example, say you’re out hunting and damage a shotgun barrel and have to have a smith cut an inch off of a 26” barrel. “shortened to any length” now makes it illegal.

I also see some changes that now say a magazine loaded shotgun or rifle must now be transported in a locked container.

I didn’t see anything about NFA items mentioned.

Is my legalese way off or are they trying to slip some bad stuff in hoping we wouldn’t notice?
 

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The "sawed-off" portions in this bill apply to felons possessing firearms (they're not allowed to have one of any length).

EDIT: Also... transport can be in the interior of the vehicle:

"not chamber-loaded when transported, and in an exterior locked compartment of the vehicle or trunk of the vehicle or in the interior compartment of the vehicle."
 
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I still see some things I’m concerned about.

“G. H. For purposes of this section, "sawed-off shotgun or
rifle" shall mean any shotgun or rifle which has been shortened to
any length.”

I’m concerned about the words “shortened to any length”.

An example, say you’re out hunting and damage a shotgun barrel and have to have a smith cut an inch off of a 26” barrel. “shortened to any length” now makes it illegal.

I also see some changes that now say a magazine loaded shotgun or rifle must now be transported in a locked container.

I didn’t see anything about NFA items mentioned.

Is my legalese way off or are they trying to slip some bad stuff in hoping we wouldn’t notice?
This bill only does away with the permit, nothing else
 

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It was all for Constitutional Carry. Now, they need to let teachers carry in school.

HB3192. I talked to Babinec last week and he thinks it is dead this year. But OK2A has proven in the past to be pretty good at reintroducing something like this into another bill late in the session. 3192 adds a few simple changes that allow school boards, if they choose to do so, to bypass the CLEET training requirement.
 

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It passed!

OKLAHOMA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Fifty-Sixth Legislature

Second Regular Session





SENATE BILL 1212 Firearms; modifying inclusions on unlawful carry.

Roberts (Sean) Effective date.



THIRD READING PASSED



YEAS: 59 RCS# 1510

NAYS: 28 4/25/2018

EXC : 13 6:28 PM

C/P : 0

VAC : 1

YEAS: 59

Babinec Fetgatter McEntire Sears

Baker Ford (Ross) Montgomery Strohm

Bennett (J) Frix Moore Tadlock

Boles Gann Mulready Taylor

Caldwell Hilbert Murphey Teague

Calvey Humphrey Newton Thomsen

Casey Jordan Nollan Vaughan

Cleveland Kannady Osburn (M) Wallace

Coody Kerbs Park West (J)

Derby Lawson Pfeiffer West (K)

Downing Lepak Ritze West (R)

Dunlap Martinez Roberts (D) West (T)

Echols McDaniel Roberts (S) Wright

Enns McDugle Russ Mr.Speaker

Faught McEachin Sanders

NAYS: 28

Blancett Fourkiller Inman Renegar

Cannaday Gaddis Loring Rosecrants

Cockroft Goodwin Lowe Stone

Condit Griffith Munson Virgin

Dollens Hall Nichols Walke

Dunnington Henke Ownbey Williams

Ford (Roger) Hoskin Proctor Young

EXCUSED: 13

Bennett (F) McBride Osborn (L) Worthen

Bush Meredith Perryman

Hardin O'Donnell Rogers

Kouplen Ortega Watson

CONSTITUTIONAL PRIVILEGE: 0





VACANT: 1



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OKLAHOMA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Fifty-Sixth Legislature

Second Regular Session





SENATE BILL 1212 Firearms; modifying inclusions on unlawful carry.

Roberts (Sean) Effective date.



ADOPT AMENDMENT PASSED



YEAS: 61 RCS# 1508

NAYS: 24 4/25/2018

EXC : 15 5:52 PM

C/P : 0

VAC : 1

YEAS: 61

Babinec Ford (Ross) Montgomery Strohm

Baker Frix Moore Tadlock

Bennett (J) Gann Mulready Taylor

Boles Hall Murphey Teague

Calvey Hardin Newton Thomsen

Casey Hilbert Ortega Vaughan

Cleveland Humphrey Osburn (M) Wallace

Cockroft Jordan Ownbey West (J)

Coody Kannady Pfeiffer West (K)

Derby Kerbs Ritze West (R)

Downing Lawson Roberts (D) West (T)

Dunlap Martinez Roberts (S) Wright

Echols McDaniel Rogers Mr.Speaker

Enns McDugle Russ

Faught McEachin Sanders

Fetgatter McEntire Sears

NAYS: 24

Bennett (F) Ford (Roger) Loring Rosecrants

Blancett Fourkiller Lowe Stone

Cannaday Gaddis Munson Virgin

Condit Goodwin Nichols Walke

Dollens Hoskin Proctor Williams

Dunnington Inman Renegar Young

EXCUSED: 15

Bush Kouplen Nollan Perryman

Caldwell Lepak O'Donnell Watson

Griffith McBride Osborn (L) Worthen

Henke Meredith Park

CONSTITUTIONAL PRIVILEGE: 0





VACANT: 1



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General Government Oversight and Accountability Committee


56th Legislature Committees



SB1212 Firearms; modifying inclusions on unlawf

Roberts (Sean), Dahm ul carry. Effective date.



DO PASS PASSED



YEAS: 6 RCS# 39

NAYS: 1 4/12/2018

C/P : 0 10:54:56 AM



YEAS: 6


Babinec Calvey Faught Ford (Roger)

McDugle Murphey


NAYS: 1


Munson


CONSTITUTIONAL PRIVILEGE: 0





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What's with the two votes?
 

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