Finally, someone with common sense and useful knowledge. Hybrid cars a joke. Just like ethanol from corn. Hybrid cars and wind mills do more damage to the environment than they will ever return.
Finally, someone with common sense and useful knowledge. Hybrid cars a joke. Just like ethanol from corn. Hybrid cars and wind mills do more damage to the environment than they will ever return.
I can get near 40 mpg in my 2005 saturn ion with a stick and thats a combination of city and highway driving. Straight highway driving I have been able to get it up to 45 mpg. They have reasonably decent backseat room as well.
You will be throwing away money hand over fist if you purchase a hybrid and they aren't much cleaner, the pollution is another degree removed from you so you feel less guilty about it
You will be throwing away money hand over fist if you purchase a hybrid and they aren't much cleaner, the pollution is another degree removed from you so you feel less guilty about it
Dustin, I guess when I said like maniacs what I meant is 80-85 mph cruising with a few jaunts up to a gps verified 116 mph. That's as maniacal as the car gets.
It's not really gutless though, it's just an around town commuter car, which is really the hybrid's element.
I maintain I like it though, slick little grocery getter.
I also maintain I want a cool little diesel sedan, too bad we can't get a lot of the neat ones over here.
It's not really gutless though, it's just an around town commuter car, which is really the hybrid's element.
I maintain I like it though, slick little grocery getter.
I also maintain I want a cool little diesel sedan, too bad we can't get a lot of the neat ones over here.
A coworker looked at CNG vehicles, the problem he found was finding filling stations to use it as anything other than an around town grocery getter.
Traxxis this is my opinion only. But hybrids are about the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Feel better now...
So you are needing a fuel efficient car for long trips. The hybrid ain't it. On the interstate at speed you aren't using the batteries at all just the engine, so what the difference? Why spend extra coin on it? I'd get a regular Escape or you might try to dig up one of those small Jeep SUV's that competed with the Escape. I forgot the model name. They made them in diesel! If you can find one. Also the VW TDI's aren't that bad to work on and don't think anything about the oil requirements. I can hook you up with all you want at a normal price.
As for me I'd just about kill for a half ton 4X4 with a 4.0 to 4.5L turbo diesel. The ultimate would be this converted to CNG! As it is I'll end up with a 3/4 diesel. And down the road convert it to CNG.
So you are needing a fuel efficient car for long trips. The hybrid ain't it. On the interstate at speed you aren't using the batteries at all just the engine, so what the difference? Why spend extra coin on it? I'd get a regular Escape or you might try to dig up one of those small Jeep SUV's that competed with the Escape. I forgot the model name. They made them in diesel! If you can find one. Also the VW TDI's aren't that bad to work on and don't think anything about the oil requirements. I can hook you up with all you want at a normal price.
As for me I'd just about kill for a half ton 4X4 with a 4.0 to 4.5L turbo diesel. The ultimate would be this converted to CNG! As it is I'll end up with a 3/4 diesel. And down the road convert it to CNG.
I guess I should re-clarify... I am interested in the Fusion, Escape and the Cruze.
Not the least bit interested in a Civic.
The CNG is nice, but the size of the tanks are the biggest draw back. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a dual fuel CNG and what, propane? Also, I know that any I have ever driven (which was a while back) were very sensitive to the climate... have they taken care of that?
Not the least bit interested in a Civic.
The CNG is nice, but the size of the tanks are the biggest draw back. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a dual fuel CNG and what, propane? Also, I know that any I have ever driven (which was a while back) were very sensitive to the climate... have they taken care of that?
I really couldn't care less about the environmental issues, I just think it's a neat technology. As for the long trips, it's more of an issue of comfort rather than mileage, most of the Wife's traveling is town anyhow.
And I completely agree with the half ton TDI... my dream truck would be a four door Ranger with a Cummins 4bt.
