So you agree with 0bama in that steel core rifle ammo should be banned because a pistol was invented to take such ammo? You must want to ban the very popular M855 used in the AR15 too. You are a gun banner, why are you even on this forum?
From The Gilmer Mirror (Northeast Texas Newspaper)
Quit trashing Obama's accomplishments. He has done more than any other President before him. Here is a list of his impressive accomplishments:
1. First President to be photographed smoking a joint.
2. First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
3. First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
4. First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.
5. First President to violate the War Powers Act.
6. First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
7. First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
8. First President to spend a trillion dollars on "shovel-ready" jobs when there was no such thing as "shovel-ready" jobs.
9. First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
10. First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
11. First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.
12. First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
13. First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.
14. First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.
15. First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.
16. First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
17. First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
18. First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.
19. First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
20. First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
21. First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
22. First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).
23. First President to fire an inspector general of AmeriCorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
24. First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
25. First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.
26. First President to golf more than 150 separate times in his five years in office.
27. First President to hide his birth, medical, educational and travel records.
28. First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
29. First President to go on multiple "global apology tours" and concurrent "insult our friends" tours.
30. First President to go on over 17 lavish vacations, in addition to date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayers.
31. First President to have personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
32. First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
33. First President to fly in a personal trainer from Chicago at least once a week at taxpayer expense.
34. First President to repeat the Quran and tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.
35. First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs Arizona).
36. First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they "volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences."
37. Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.
I feel much better now. I had been under the impression he hadn't been doing ANYTHING.
Quit trashing Obama's accomplishments. He has done more than any other President before him. Here is a list of his impressive accomplishments:
1. First President to be photographed smoking a joint.
2. First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
3. First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
4. First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.
5. First President to violate the War Powers Act.
6. First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
7. First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
8. First President to spend a trillion dollars on "shovel-ready" jobs when there was no such thing as "shovel-ready" jobs.
9. First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
10. First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
11. First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.
12. First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
13. First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.
14. First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.
15. First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.
16. First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
17. First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
18. First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.
19. First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
20. First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
21. First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
22. First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).
23. First President to fire an inspector general of AmeriCorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
24. First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
25. First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.
26. First President to golf more than 150 separate times in his five years in office.
27. First President to hide his birth, medical, educational and travel records.
28. First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
29. First President to go on multiple "global apology tours" and concurrent "insult our friends" tours.
30. First President to go on over 17 lavish vacations, in addition to date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayers.
31. First President to have personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
32. First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
33. First President to fly in a personal trainer from Chicago at least once a week at taxpayer expense.
34. First President to repeat the Quran and tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.
35. First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs Arizona).
36. First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they "volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences."
37. Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.
I feel much better now. I had been under the impression he hadn't been doing ANYTHING.
there you go again .. assuming things .. garbage in, garbage out!
where in the world are you getting that I'm a banner? taking about making crap up!
like most preppers types .. I've already got a lifetime supply of ammo/guns/magazine, etc. etc.
you little list above has nothing to do with me ... again .. proposing something is NOT the same as passing a new law.
wanting to do something is NOT the same as passing a new law!
read the above again .. Obama has only passed two new gun related laws, which both expanded gun rights.
personally could give a rats ass about steel core ammo availability. most folks that's shot high powered rifle rounds like 30.06 understand it's armour piercing already. so why should I give a rats ass if steel core ammo for AK74 is no longer going to be imported?
Sounds like you are perfectly okay with our POS president banning ammo. Why r u here?
that's right assume more garbage .. just because someone could give a rats ass what happens to AK74 steel ammo has NOTHING to do with rest of their guns rights beliefs. sounds like you need some of this
Your infatuation with our POS president has blinded you from the fact that he hates guns and gun owners.that's right assume more garbage .. just because someone could give a rats ass what happens to AK74 steel ammo has NOTHING to do with rest of their guns rights beliefs. sounds like you need some of this
If he can ban one ammo for being armor piercing he can ban a lot more. Especially considering that all rifle ammo chambered in a pistol is going to be armor piercing.
I don't even own a AK74 but I do realize that a win for them is a lose for us.
Do support a BAN on M855 or not?
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This being Indian Country, ya gottsta give props to Obama for his work with tribes and on tribal issues.
From what I can gather, the ATF and CBP requested the ban and pushed it through the necessary govt. channels, and Obama had little to do with it. That being said, it doesn't take away the good things Obama has done. I certainly don't support Obama, but I can give credit where it's due. And just because we may disagree about an issue doesn't mean those opinions aren't welcomed here, because they are. Someone asked a legitimate question in the original post, so we might want to consider the legitimate responses that follow.
If 0bama didn't support the bans he would have stopped them from doing it.
Another awesome thing 0bama has done is made the NRA and Firearms Manufacturers boat loads of money. If he hadn't been elected I probably wouldn't have become a gun owner (or at least to the extent that I am). The more he wants to ban them, the people want to buy them, the more people buy the harder they are to ban. I'm loving it
I think the Senate and House of Representatives are much more threatening to gun bans than the President, regardless of who is currently President. And the mass murderers have given much more to the manufacturers/NRA than the President could ever dream of.
