Just as a public service announcement, if you work at a sporting good store gun counter, and don't know what you are talking about, don't just say random things that you think sound good. Things like "Oh, those will kill them" or "That will go through anybody" or "That's all you need" aren't really the thing to say when pitching the ONE type of self defense ammo you carry. And, I wasn't feeling well, that's why I gave such a sarcastic reply.