Has this been discussed here?

[GlockPride]

So, cops still can’t define if suspicion is a misdemeanor or a felony?!?

Boy, those two in Watonga sure used some words to dance around legal aspects. More dancing than a two-stepping’ Saturday night.

I grew up in an LE household. But, I’m finding it harder and harder to support JBT who want to punish and terrorize innocent civilians.

 

[audiotech]

Hard to say from the portion they showed, I want to see the entire video before I do an internet conviction...

none of that on OSA, you know the rules

 

[Big House]

Finally located the names of the "Officers" Monty Goodwin and Joaquin Montoya

 

[GnometownHero]

When dad was Judge he dealt with Watonga origin insanity quite often. Tribal persons & citizen idiocy usually involving alcohol, inhalants and narcotics. Watonga was a pretty messed up place.
He and mom were child advocates in cases involving indigent tribal kids and assessing their condition, education level and info used to help place them in proper care. Mom said it was all stupid and heartbreaking.

 

[montesa]

I think the cops are out of line all time. However, this doesn't seem that bad to me. Early morning hours, dude with a kid in alley. Asks the man to identify himself. Creeps have been caught that way. If I were a cop I would probably look into it if I saw it. Might handle it better but doesn't seem too crazy to me.

 

[Coug91]

And that link is not showing the full video, they are showing different segments with gaps. I am not defending the officer, I'm trying to get people to look for the whole picture, not just the segment the new station shows you.

They is no excuse fire the officers' (plural) actions.

 

[Coug91]

I think the cops are out of line all time. However, this doesn't seem that bad to me. Early morning hours, dude with a kid. Asks the man to identify himself. Creeps have been caught that way.

Oklahoma isn't a stop and ID state, so if not suspected of a crime,, there is no requirement to ID is my understanding.

 

[dennishoddy]

When does it become illegal to take a walk with your children at 5:30 in the morning? Even in a public alley?

 

[montesa]

When does it become illegal to take a walk with your children at 5:30 in the morning? Even in a public alley?

It's not. I think he should have handled it better. I don't know. If I were out walking early in the morning with my son like that and a cop wanted to know the situation I think I would be appreciative and helpful in satisfying his concerns. Maybe I have a bad take on this one.

 

[dennishoddy]

It's not. I think he should have handled it better. I don't know. If I were out walking early in the morning with my son like that and a cop wanted to know the situation I think I would be appreciative and helpful in satisfying his concerns. Maybe I have a bad take on this one.

Being confrontational in a stop doesn't help anything. But, as has been said, we haven't seen the entire video, so we don't know if the cop badgered the guy into getting angry or he just had a chip on his shoulder.
I'm withholding judgment on this one.